nerdwarrior

For what? The platform?

Heater as in heated bed.

But if I don't need the leveling then my old heater will work, right?

Just did a quick rough measurement between the 3 and the 2 and it seems to me the 3 bed will just fit... THANK YOU. It's great to have someone who has both to measure it out I'm assuming that the heated bed has not changed. Is that correct? while UltiArjan is still asleep, i can help you out there there are some small changes there, the Z stage has changed completely, but the temperature range and the glass plate have remained the same. I do believe it reaches the temperature a bit quicker as compared to the UM2 and UM2+ but that might just be my imagination. Thank you! So I should (theoretically) be able to fit the UMO+ heated bed and glass plate onto the new platform, right? Also, the distance between the bearings (the vertical rods) is the same, right?

Just did a quick rough measurement between the 3 and the 2 and it seems to me the 3 bed will just fit... THANK YOU. It's great to have someone who has both to measure it out I'm assuming that the heated bed has not changed. Is that correct?

My 3D printing is maker hobby so far. But I am usually ambitious & perfectionist if I do something. Then I want to achieve the best possible. And if there's a solution to dual printing for support material or other fun now, I NEED this :-) The price is secondary in that case, I would also be ready to invest 500 Euros in one of the good hacks that were developed recently for dual extrusion. But with all these the tuning work to get them going worries me. None of these upgrades is plug and play, for me that might be worth the +1.000 Euros for the UM3, eliminating this hassle. But definitely the 3.500 Euros is the uppermost limit to spend on a personal 3D printer... ;-) On the other hand the UM3 is not as hackable any more. (Or better you don't want to mess with that any more, you'd compromise it's reliability). I created a exchange head and a hacked firmware for the UM2+ that lets me UV laser expose PCBs, that's slightly harder with UM3, new hardware, new firmware, new print head. Yes, the UM3 is in this nice "all-in-on" package pretty much guaranteed to work, but if you're using it as a hobby tool, then maybe look into something like the Y-splitter: http://prusaprinters.org/original-prusa-i3-mk2-multi-material-upgrade-release/ It seems to work well and stay cost-efficient at the same time.

The first time I saw about it it looked too easy, but when you check the printhead and see the mechanism, there is more complexity hidden there. I'm sure at Ultimaker HQ they tested all the different ways, and in the end they chose the most reliable one: the mechanical switch. Also, and for all the people that want this printhead on the UM2, I don't see how this could be easily adapted without having to change the panels and other parts. It's not about being Ultimaker fanboys, we all wish it was possible to hack the Ultimaker until it was the best machine ever, but the results first need to meet some quality standards. True...... I would call this an engineering marvel. The 7 Wonders of the 3D Printing World: Prusa mesh bed leveling BCN3D Sigma independent extruders UM3 nozzle lifting system Carbon 3D CLIP printing process E3D Volcano extended heater block Lulzbot nozzle cleaning process Lulzbot tilt compensation

Smart...... I wonder how Ultimaker has the brains to think of this kind of stuff.

I've already poked one of our hardware engineers about this. As far as I know (I'm just a software guy, so don't pin me down on this) it should be possible to back-port the um3 bed to the UM2. If there is a lot of interest for this, we could have a serious look at this. Take a look - guess, it can also be (community)ported to UMO/UMO+ too (of course, they're discontinued, but would be a nice...) For the lifting mechanism it seems like there is the block at the end with a small slit in it, and when the nozzle needs changing, the printhead goes into the corner so that a tiny lever (on the side of the printhead) fits into the slit, and then by moving the printhead forwards or backwards, it can flip the lever to tilt the internal mechanisms. I'm not positive, but it seems to be like that from the video.

I've already poked one of our hardware engineers about this. As far as I know (I'm just a software guy, so don't pin me down on this) it should be possible to back-port the um3 bed to the UM2. If there is a lot of interest for this, we could have a serious look at this. Take a look - guess, it can also be (community)ported to UMO/UMO+ too (of course, they're discontinued, but would be a nice...) I don't think the UMO+ was discontinued, only the UMO......

I've already poked one of our hardware engineers about this. As far as I know (I'm just a software guy, so don't pin me down on this) it should be possible to back-port the um3 bed to the UM2. If there is a lot of interest for this, we could have a serious look at this. Great to hear that! Additionally, the dimensions of the UMO+ and the UM2+ are the same, so they should both work, right? Super interested in this, please tell me if you guys come out with one!

Also, is anyone else thinking about swapping out the UMO+ aluminum build platform for a UM3 style one? The current one is just a thick, ridiculously heavy slab of aluminum, and the newer design seems to be a good alternative. I'm thinking about designing a similar one and having it CNCed.

Makes sense. I thought of some 1500-1750. Bought it for just 2200, so 2000 are a bit high probably :-) You never know If your Ultimaker is in good condition, people might actually take 2k, and you'll be spending less on a UM3! Who knows how desperate people are to get cheaper-than-usual printer.

I won't stop you from selling your Ultimaker, but I honestly think that it's not worth it...... Most prints don't have the complexity at which soluble supports is necessary, and the 1k jump in the price is rather large...... It really depends on what you're using your Ultimaker for. If it's just as a tool you use at home, then I would probably stick with the UM2+ and possibly hack it a bit to get some newer features, but if you're running a company or printing hub with it, the UM3 is a great choice because of the automation and reliability. Again, your choice, but I just feel bad for the Ultimaker that you're going to sell.

Yeah...... I just kind of wish that they would come out with a newer, more up-to-date version of the UMO+. But there is, of course, the longer but more interesting route of starting a massive hacking project.

You may not NEED all of those but the combination of all the features should make it a lot more reliable and easier to use. Yes, the entire printer is more automated and far more reliable, but while the reliability is a big bonus, I don't think I need the automation...... I don't know about you, but I actually like fixing and maintaining my printer. I don't have a pet, so my UMO+ takes on the role of one And plus, if you take price into consideration, it is a lot cheaper to hack a UMO+ or get a Prusa i3 instead of a UM3. Big companies that just need a reliable, hassle-freee workhorse might like the UM3, but personally, I don't see why I would need to get something that expensive.

The main things I'm interested in is the new, stiffer bed and some form of dual extrusion. If anyone wants to do some UMO+ hacking, let me know!

I just got up, and the first thing I did was check out the UM3. And MY GOD there are so many new features...... Wifi, onboard camera, filament sensor in the spool holder, light/stiffer build plate, larger build volume, auto bed leveling, dual extruders with a lifting mechanism, increased temp. range, interchangeable hotends with special internal structures, hotend pcb's for recognition, status lights...... And then comes the realization that I will never need half of those features.

Too bad it'll be at night over here...... I'll have to wait until morning :angry:

Time is different for everyone, so just calculate it with the countdown: https://ultimaker.com/en/made-by-the-new-ultimaker

Oh I'm sorry I thought you knew and just couldn't tell us XD Well then, that cuts down on possible solutions...... It's probably something new and innovative, though.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be the foehnsturm approach now: Look at the third-to-last post foehnsturm made on the last page: https://ultimaker.com/en/community/10657-a-different-multi-extrusion-approach-um-tool-printhead-changer?page=41 Then if you observe the fuzzy gif of the printer moving, you can see that the printhead keeps going to the top right corner. It just seems so likely......

It's almost here! Can't wait.....

Also possibly independent printheads like the BCN3D Sigma, but I'm pretty sure it will be something simpler because two printheads would complicate things and increase the desk footprint.

I'm guessing it's probably going to be a Y-splitter (like the Prusa i3 Mk2) or the foehnsturm approach.