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Hi everyone, Could someone please help me with Ultimaker 2+ Extended settings? I installed Prusa Slicer 2.1.0 and IdeaMaker 3.4.2 on the computer. I don't know specific settings related to Ultimaker 2+ Extended so I can correctly fill in and configure the required fields within both Slicers Prusa Slicer and IdeaMaker. In the attached images you can see what I was able to fill in, but probably something must be wrong. I tried printing using PrusaSlicer with these settings at the image settings, and I had problems. Please, anyone who has or understands the settings of Ultimaker 2+ Extended and knows the correct settings to use within Prusa Slicer 2.1.0 and IdeaMaker 3.4.2 could kindly inform me, so it would not only help me but also would help other people too who would like to have this information. Thank you so much for your attention and help.

Since I'm not an advanced user, and the flavor of Ultimaker 2+ is Ultimaker 2, so start Gcode is not shown, so I don't have access to the line of code that extrudes the filament. While turning off filament extrusion would help solve the problem, this could create another by not extruding some material before printing. Using Skirt could also be a solution to help alleviate the problem of the print area getting a mess. But that wouldn't solve Nozzle's problem being completely dirty and clogged or some other kind of problem and causing the first layer of printing to be affected. Fortunately I am well leveled. Soon I will have to level again when I clean the glass. The initial behavior of Ultimaker 2+ Extended during the initial printing process changed completely after I installed Cura4.3. In Cura4.2.1 the initial printing process on Ultimaker 2+ was normal, with no problems whatsoever. It may have been some new code or function from Cura4.3, I don't know ... but if anyone is experiencing the same problem using Cura4.3 with Ultimaker 2+ please talk. I know Firmware wasn't the cause of this, at least with me. I updated the firmware when I installed Cura4.2.1, so it can only be something in Cura4.3.

I did the firmware update on September 5th. But after I removed ultimakerCura 4.2.1 and I installed ultimakerCura 4.3 is that I had the same behavior as yours. Everything you described in your post happened to me, nozzle extrudes a large amount of filament at the edge and quickly nozzle dives into that extruded filament, then nozzle drags some or all of this filament into the print area. Because I used Brim, it helps me to have a certain barrier, but the nozzle when it goes over makes a noise and the next inner lines of that point get bad. If I didn't use Brim, surely my first layer would be in serious trouble. When this problem happened to me, I froze, and quickly I was trying to pull this extruded filament mess off the table, the problem is that it hardens very quickly with the heated table, so some residue passed with Nozzle and I couldn't do anything. Fortunately, the impression has not been compromised. Because I've been through this experience, and I don't know how to fix it, so for me to work it out, every time I make a new impression, just as Nozzle is starting to extrude filament at the beginning of the print, I have a tweezers i try to prevent the extruded filament from curving and sticking in the nozzle, i try to make the extruded filament come out straight and with a piece of paper in the other hand i try to hold all the extruded filament and i pull as much of it as possible extruded filament until Nozzle moves into the print area without dragging extruded filament. But for that you have to be very fast, if you are not fast, a lot of mess will happen in the printing area. I believe this problem is not related to Firmware, but to the newer version of ultimakerCura 4.3. I hope that in the next version of ultimakerCura this problem has been resolved.

Hi, For Ultimaker 2+ Extended, I installed the latest version of ultimakerCura 4.3 and I saw something weird about Machine Settings, specifically PrintHead Settings. In the picture you can see that the left image is UltimakerCura 4.2.1 and the values for Xmin and Ymin are positive numbers respectively 44mm and 34mm. In the right image is the version of ultimakerCura 4.3 and the values for Xmin and Ymin are negative numbers respectively -44mm and -34mm. I didn't change any values, just did a fresh install of Cura4.3, deleting the previous version 4.21, but keeping my settings. I don't know if these negative numbers in Xmin and Ymin will cause problems ... Would this be a mistake in the new version of Cura4.3 or some fix to make things work better? Could someone help me with this? What do I do? Do I keep positive or negative values for Xmin and Ymin? Remembering that it is for Ultimaker 2+ Extended. Thanks

Sorry, I thought you also had Ultimaker 2+. Thank you very much for your orientation and indication of the 1.75mm kit! I will get more information about this kit! If anyone has used this kit on Ultimaker 2+, please share if everything is working out or if you had any problems. Thanks.

Great news then! I was already giving up trying to figure out a way for Ultimaker 2 "+ extended to accept 1.75mm filaments. If for some reason you want to revert back to 2.85mm would it be possible and easy to do?

@johnse Thank you for letting me know that there is another hope. Have you used this kit or do you still use this kit on your ultimaker 2 +?

Hi @chuck-yanke Thank you so much for sharing this information. Have you used this place's kit on ultimaker 2+? If so, did the 1.75mm kit work without problems? If you could share more information it would be great! Thanks again for the info.

@tinkergnome thank you to answer me... I was referring to the Ultimakers printers (because I have the Ultimaker 2+ extended). All Ultimaker printers are already configured in a way that works perfectly as soon as you turn on the printer. The latest Ultimaker printers, as you said, are already configured with another Flavor and ready to use without the user having to think about GCodes. So I thought it might have something similar for 3d printers like my Ultimaker 2+ Extended. Because of my need to constantly change the specific settings in ultimaker Cura for my detailed statues-oriented projects. I have realized that I need to switch Flavor to Marlin so that I will have access to temperature settings and other specific functions that are hidden when I use Flavor Ultimaker 2. I am using the ultimaker Cura 4.2.1 (most current version). Sorry for my insecurity, but the only thing I would like, as I am inexperienced, is to be able to switch the Ultimaker 2+ extended Flavor to Marlin and have no problem. I confess to you that I have no knowledge of GCode. So my fear of inserting any Marlin Start and End GCode. Does Marlin's GCode Start and End work perfectly for Ultimaker 2+ Extended? Or do I have to make any changes to the codes? If you can guide me better I would appreciate it very much. Thank you so much

So I will not do that. The support from which I purchased the printer told me that I could use 1.75mm filaments just by tightening the Feeder tension until I felt that Feeder would pick up the filament without problems. They showed me a picture of a person tightening the Feeder screw. Process similar to the link I put in the previous post. They didn't tell me about the serious problems you just told me. @SmithyThank you so much for letting me know.

@johnse I confused myself a while ago. For lack of experience, I thought 2.85mm filaments and 3.00mm filaments were the same thing. I thought people referred to 2.85mm or 3.00mm as if they were the same thing, just a way of expressing themselves. But of course after much research, I realized that the filaments were completely different. Last week I was able to buy from 2.85mm filaments and I ordered a 1.75mm filament sample. That way, I'll try to test the ultimaker 2+ extended without physically changing anything on the printer. I'm not sure it will work, otherwise we would have already found someone who had positive results using 1.75mm filaments on ultimaker 2+. The little I researched, I saw people succeeding in making physical changes to ultimkaer 2+ to succeed, just as you did. I was surprised that your changes didn't work out and that they gave you problems. Which made me very sad because I need to do something about it. Importing 2.85m filaments is a solution, the problem is the delay in getting the filaments, and the high taxes when they get here in the country. But if I have no other option, the way is to always import 1.85mm filaments anyway. Or find another way ... I do not know. I also wish you success. And please, if you know anything about making the Ultimaker 2 + accept 1.75mm filaments, be sure to share things here. I will report my experiences with my tests here.

I'm so sorry this happened to you. 😞 I was thinking of doing the same things you did. In one of my searches, I went to the 3dsolex website, just where you bought your kit. Before I physically made any changes to ultimaker 2+ extended, I thought about testing the Feeder tensioning technique the same way that this person did. https://learn.adafruit.com/using-1-dot-75mm-filament-on-ultimaker-2/overview For me it's a case of utmost importance and need to make Ultimaker 2+ Extended use 1.75mm filaments. Because here I only find 1.75mm filaments. And importing 2.85mm filaments would be very bad for me. Perhaps the Ultimaker manufacturer could create a specific solution or kit for users who need to use 1.75mm filaments. And if users wanted to return to using 2.85mm filaments again, this return could be accomplished easily and smoothly. (The ultimaker would give users a chance to work with both 2.85mm and 1.75mm filaments.) I realize this suggestion of this possible 1.75mm filament kit would be a successful sales suggestion. But I know it would be very difficult for them to create and manufacture.

Hi @tinkergnome Thank you so much for clarifying questions that I consider very important for understanding things here. You're absolutely right. At that time there were not so many specific and advanced settings within Slicer. It was certainly a clever idea at the time. Simplifying the user's life. I have a question for you. These days, for users of Ultimaker 2+ or 3d printers using Ultimaker 2 (Ultigcode) flavor, there would be a possibility of not using it anymore. And can it go the same way or shape as the latest 3d printer models? I say this because Slicers' technology is increasingly advanced and feature specific. I think it would be interesting for the user to be able to choose whether to stay in the Ultimaker 2 flavor or the Flavor that is used in the latest 3d printer models. Please correct me if I said something wrong as I am not an advanced user. What do you think? Would it be possible? I thought the firmware would be directly associated with Flavor being used on the machine. Just doubt of a person who does not understand much. How great to know that the two things are unrelated and separate. Thanks for the tip, if I saw this "override settings" message I would think I had done something wrong and I would panic! Thank you so much for explaining this to me. Thank you very much 🙂

1) Would there be a problem if in ultimaker Cura, I add a new printer (ultimaker 2+ extended) with Flavor Marlin separately and I leave the other configuration of Flavor Ultimaker 2? 2) If I have no problem with this kind of setting I made, I would like to know if there would be any problems regarding future firmware updates? I know it's the same Ultimaker 2+ extended 3d printer, so I guess I wouldn't have any problems, just choose any of the printers and upgrade normally on ultimaker Cura... but I'd just like to confirm that I wouldn't have no kind of conflict. Thank you

Hi @tinkergnome Thanks for sharing your knowledge and clarifying some things. I understand that this was thinking of having several advantages and especially the ease for users who want to plug in Scard and print something with quality and without problems. That's great! But on the other hand, when you need a little more control over 3d printing this limitation or automation turns out to be a big wall for the user who would need to set something a little more elaborate than for example a single temperature for all layers. I have been trying to read and inform myself here in the forum to understand how things work and I realized that many users when exposing the settings that were made of their respective 3d prints, these people have easy control of the 3d prints because they do not have the restriction of Flavor Ultimaker 2. I think these users use another Flavor like Marlin. I will try to move Flavor to Marlin and see if I succeed. If I realize that things are not going well, I will return to Flavor Ultmaker 2. In my opinion knowing the current print layer is very important information. With this information, if the printing stops for some reason (it happened to me two days ago and I lost a job for many hours. I was printing at 0.04mm resolution) I could research how I would return to printing on that Layer that stopped 3D printing and restart the printing process on that Layer. And so would waste no time, filament and money. With all due respect, Ultimaker could revise this policy, as the current Print Layer information would not be a superfluous detail but very useful and very important information for the user. 🙂