OK so i tried a couple of the over hang tests. With the fan at 10 it was trying to move but just twitching. When i set it to 20 it was working, man what a difference, got higher with the angles before they started getting worse and the front was just cleaner and nicer looking. Overall the 20% made a huge difference.
I did the overhang test at 230 and 30% fan. looked good, but when i tried a normal print it wasn't hot enough and it ended up failing because the layers werent sticking together. Im going to try a rpint at 250 and 20%/
Anyways thanks so much for the advice, you clearly know what you are doing. You've been a big help. Any other ABS advice you could give me that would save me hours of googling? lol