Spiralize doubt

[fergazz 60]

Can I use spiralize for the object below?

I never use this and I have short term, is it tricky? What are the benefits?

Cheers community... I`m back to the game!

Edited May 3, 2016 by Guest

[Nicolinux 288]

I think you could use it. Remember though that spiralize does one shell only. This might break your model.

[avogra 68]

I think spiralize only works if there is a single wall at each layer so that it can be printed without any travel moves. your model has an inner and an outer circle which aren't connected so i think it won't work right.

[fergazz 60]

thank you guys!

Really, just one shell like 0.4 wall thickness? That`s so thin.

This object has 1.2 and some points are wider.

It`s not that time that I will try spiralize... and I don`t think I will do something that thin.

Cheers!

[avogra 68]

Really, just one shell like 0.4 wall thickness?

 

yes, in two ways. spiralize will print only one shell, so for a thicker shell you will have to use a larger nozzle. But I think your model won't work at all, because it has two shells each layer, one for the outer contour, one for the inner contour. spiralize only makes sense with massive models. it prints the model, but without the benefit you would expect from it. i learned by printing a hollow vase. one contour was printed with incrementally rising z, then the inner contour was printed at constant z. then the next inner contour at rising z then outer contour at constant z,... so in the end i had a z-scar and aditionally varying layer height.

[DidierKlein 729]

Just an addition, in spiralize you can easily do 0.6mm shells with a 0.4mm nozzle, do to this, make sure not to print to fast (to prevent underextrusion) and not to big layers (0.1 - 0.15 works well).

[fergazz 60]

That`s the model done, without spiralize.

I liked this final result. Thanks for the advises fellows!!

Cheers!

Edited May 5, 2016 by Guest
diagramming

[fergazz 60]

... so in the end i had a z-scar and aditionally varying layer height.

 

So, you talk about z-scar... that`s curious because I thinked that a benefit to print spirilize was avoid the z-scar! So, if you print just one shell (0.4, 0.6 or wider, doesn`t metter) how it will leave a z-scar if the nozzle stay constantly rising without stop for a step up layer? I saw a photo of a hollow vase here in community (made with a T-Glassy filament) that was with a diagonal z-scar. Actually my print (the blue one that I posted above) stayed with a little z-scar to without using spiralize.

[fergazz 60]

one contour was printed with incrementally rising z, then the inner contour was printed at constant z. then the next inner contour at rising z then outer contour at constant z

 

How did you set this? I never heard about it, seems curious...

[avogra 68]

that z-scar and the varying layerheight both happened when spiralize was used with a model that isn't suitable. With the right model (only one continuous shell line in each layer) it will of course have no z-scar and nice layers

[fergazz 60]

I believe that the 0.8 nozzle of Olsson block kit should be a good choice to print spirilize...

[avogra 68]

yes, that makes absolutely sense

[DidierKlein 729]

Yes indeed with the 0.80mm nozzle you can do a spiralize with 0.80mm walls and probably even bigger, i suspect you can do a 1.2mm wall with it. Or go for the 1mm nozzle from 3dsolex to go even bigger

[fergazz 60]

...Or go for the 1mm nozzle from 3dsolex to go even bigger

 

Woooow damn! Things are going better than I imagine!! Bigger, faster and stronger... I definitely need to bring an Olsson block kit and try spirilize!

I suppose that Printed Solid guy (Matthew?) should have those... next week I will purchase some filaments with him for my stock.

Edited May 15, 2016 by Guest