1 hour ago, bob-hepple said:Neotko
do you think this process would work on a sphere I am printing at 0.12 layer height and would like the sphere which is 40mm diameter be look right, at the moment the last 10mm aprox (in height) the layers are shifting (opening up) see below, do you think your process would help in this situation
Hard to tell. It might do the B matte but with so many toplayers the results will be so-so. And for the top-top of the circles probably the best for quality would be just to lower layer height on the last millimeters.
I been trying to make a neosanding for layer to layer but I keep postponing it for other stuff. So much work lately and very little time to actually do ??♂️
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Difficulty level High Warning, this isn't a easy trick if you don't know every aspect of S3D. And I mean, 'every'. Hi guys,! First, the images... Basic Elements to make this Trick & have
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Really Like the Concept might get around to trying it when time allows.
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I admire your ingenuity... That's genius! ...and can you please change the title of the topic to "Neosanding"? Thanks!
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Though this thread has been around for a long time, reading it today (for the first time), prompted a few thoughts. I'm not a super writer, so please forgive if the tone of this sounds like something from a church pulpit. It's the best I can do with the brain cells I have left.
First, neotko. Genius.
Second. Ultimaker. -
The approach taken is understandable, Now, you seemed taken aback at the reaction of a creator when they find out indirectly that their concept is being implemented commercially, albeit with a modified algorithm. Their reaction is as clear to me as yours.
There are no rocks really worth throwing here, but if I can add some perspective. From what I have seen here in my short time, the people who invest in equipment at the level that Ultimaker produces tend to be makers at the high end of hobbiest up to high end professional. After all, this is not some ali express kit.
People in this community create a lot of stuff. Some of it is for sharing and open source, but some of it is how we choose to make our living. Whether one chooses to licence their IP, or add an open source creation to their CV is a personal choice, one that should be the creator's alone.
Sadly, the notion of IP and patent poaching is a real threat. I've been hit on both fronts. Patent poaching has cost me 5 figures in the past two years alone. In another case, I have had my open source technical papers co-opted by a government department and published as their own without acknowledgement, even to the point where they decided the material should be protected, so I was approached by one of their cube farm residents to pull down my document from my file server, as it conflicted with their 'original'. Hmmmm.
I am certain that others on this forum have had some level of similar experience.
One only has to get bitten once to have a heightened awareness of what happens when an idea is being picked up without attribution. it's not so much how it starts, but where it leads, that is the kicker. Good intention or not, the impact can sometimes be equal. In this case, I can completely see how this evolved and why. No one intended harm, but that's not to say it didn't occur anyway. Is there something we can do differently next time ? Do we want there to be another creative 'next time'? I sure hope so. If so, we need to make that a positive thing.
The sharing of ideas is good for us all. Ironing (son of neosanding) is a great example of how this works. That said, it seems completely reasonable to me that we all take the simple step of acknowledging the originator in the creative process, as soon as we decide to take their idea further. A private message is often enough, public thanks can be timed if the result comes to fruition, but that initial note changes the entire context from appropriation to collaboration.
In time, the respect and IP protection that we offer one another will benefit every single one of us, from high end hobbiest all the way up to the creative team at Ultimaker, who, it seems to me, have some geniuses of their own. Maybe it should be part of the agreement when you sign up to join this forum. Who knows?
Off my soap box now.
John
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do you think this process would work on a sphere I am printing at 0.12 layer height and would like the sphere which is 40mm diameter be look right, at the moment the last 10mm aprox (in height) the layers are shifting (opening up) see below, do you think your process would help in this situation
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