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Posted · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3

Good afternoon,

 

Apologies if this is in the wrong topic!

I wondered if any one has any experience printing with metal infused materials on an Ultimaker 3, or if this is even possible? I have a potential project that may need me to do this. If I can't, are there any conductive materials that can be used instead? My main experience is using ABS & PLA so don't have a lot of knowledge when using specialist filaments.

Any help or advice would be great!

Cheers,

David

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    Posted · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3

    It's technically possible but it can grind away at your feeder wheel/nozzle bore, so you'd need to accept that risk.

    Using a CC core with an S3 or S5 is more suited to composites (not trying to upsell, just facts).

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    Posted · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3

    Hi Maht,

    Thanks for your reply.

    That's as I suspected. Do you have any further information that might help me investigate that further? Just a point in the right direction.

    Aside from that, do you think any of the plastics offer conductivity?

     

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    Posted (edited) · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3

    you need to pay attention to the nozzle tip in particular, I bought from Solex 3D a range of ruby tipped nozzles ( I have an UM2 ++) that work well for abrasive materiel, that would include metals (like bronze fill) and even woodfil, you need to increase the feed rate and temperature  and maybe reduce retraction - that is to say keep the flow moving or the nozzle can get blocked

     

    good luck

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    Posted · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3

    There is a conductive material with graphene content, called Koltron G1. 

    Never tried it, expensive but available also in small 100g rolls 

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    Posted · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3

    Hi everyone,

    Thanks for your help. The project is on hold for now (clients!) so it might not be the near future, but I'll let you know how I get on if it proceeds. All good information for future reference anyway. I appreciate your input.

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    Posted · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3
    21 hours ago, maht said:

    It's technically possible but it can grind away at your feeder wheel/nozzle bore, so you'd need to accept that risk.

    Using a CC core with an S3 or S5 is more suited to composites (not trying to upsell, just facts).

     

    You can use the cc0.6 on the Ultimaker3, you will still wear out your feeder wheel so if you plan on printing a lot a new bondtech feeder will be a good option.

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    Posted · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3
    2 hours ago, ultiarjan said:

    You can use the cc0.6 on the Ultimaker3, you will still wear out your feeder wheel so if you plan on printing a lot a new bondtech feeder will be a good option.

    Would it be possible to install S5 feeders instead of bondtech (without tinkering with E-steps)? I wonder if the filament sensor would also work, as the wiring is present, the firmware 5.2.11 is identical to the corresponding firmware of the S5 and the temperature graph of cura connect contains two extra feeds named sensor0 and sensor1?

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    Posted (edited) · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3
    On 5/21/2020 at 5:28 PM, Enigma_M4 said:

    Would it be possible to install S5 feeders instead of bondtech (without tinkering with E-steps)? I wonder if the filament sensor would also work, as the wiring is present, the firmware 5.2.11 is identical to the corresponding firmware of the S5 and the temperature graph of cura connect contains two extra feeds named sensor0 and sensor1?

     

    I really don't see why not, should be simple, but realistically Ultimaker will not support it in firmware. If you skip the fillament sensor it should be possible. I don't know the sparepart price of S5 feeders, but looking at UM3 pricing it's probably in the same range as using Bondtech

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    Posted · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3

    Fiberforce Italy has a conductive material that is PLA based. Be aware it is not as simple to print as standard PLA.

    http://www.fiberforce.it/products-pro/

    This one is not abrasive but should be printed in a well ventilated environment.

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    Posted · Metal or conductive materials - Ultimaker 3
    On 5/21/2020 at 5:28 PM, Enigma_M4 said:

    Would it be possible to install S5 feeders instead of bondtech (without tinkering with E-steps)? I wonder if the filament sensor would also work, as the wiring is present, the firmware 5.2.11 is identical to the corresponding firmware of the S5 and the temperature graph of cura connect contains two extra feeds named sensor0 and sensor1?

     

    It is not tinkering... 3 simple changes in the code, nothing go wrong with it.  When there is a firmware update on the printer, then need to redo it. Bondtech give very detailed instructions. 

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