Cura 4.8,4.6, won't run on windows 8.1

[Hammerandneil 0]

Hey All, 

 

I'm trying to get  cura up and running and can't get it to open all the way. I'm running windows 8.1 64 bit. I install the program and go to open in. I get the black status box and it goes all the way to loading interface and then the box goes away to finally open cura and I get the error cura.exe has stopped working. I also have tried running in compatibility mode for windows 7 with no luck. I"ve uninstalled and tried a few previous versions and they all give the same error. I really don't know what to try next.  I'm not sure if its related but I also tried to run prusa slicer and slic3r and get problems running those as well.  Currently I'm using simplify3d as but I would like to try some of the features Cura has.