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Posted · Can't connect to Ender 3 V3 KE on the network.

Can't connect to Ender 3 V3 KE on the network. Creality Print connect no problem.
In Cura, I input the IP and it says can't find printer.

I have heard and read Cura is the best need to try it out.

 

Mitch

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    Posted · Can't connect to Ender 3 V3 KE on the network.

    The networked printing capability that ships with Ultimaker Cura only works for Ultimaker printers (similar to how - I guess - Creality Print only offers network printing for Creality printers). At the very least you would need a plugin to connect your printer to Ultimaker Cura, but Creality being Creality I don't know if they released their plugin for use with Ultimaker Cura.

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    Posted · Can't connect to Ender 3 V3 KE on the network.

    blame Creality, they spend their efforts on an alternative slicer instead of pushing their efforts to the main version and thus upset their customers such as yourself.

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    Posted · Can't connect to Ender 3 V3 KE on the network.

    If you're looking for networking support for your E3V3KE, your best bet is to get a Raspberry Pi (fairly cheap since you'd only need an RPi Zero 2 W) and run OctoPrint on it. There's a very featureful plugin (by the wonderful @ahoeben) for Cura that adds OctoPrint support.

     

    On 11/2/2024 at 1:09 AM, Dustin said:

    blame Creality, they spend their efforts on an alternative slicer instead of pushing their efforts to the main version and thus upset their customers such as yourself.

    Alas, even if they did push their efforts upstream, the front end of the latest versions of Creality Print are based on Orca Slicer, so if they have their own networking plugin for that, converting it to a Cura plugin, if possible, would be incredibly %#*!ing painful.

     

    Although based on what I've seen, I'd much prefer they didn't push changes upstream. The changes they make/made (to both the current version and older ones based on Cura) are incredibly lazy and they make the only slicer I've seen with in app purchases.

     

    Also, mandatory rant for every time something to do with Creality comes up: if you're going to say in your printer's specs that it supports Cura, at least submit some (*$#ing machine definitions so it's not half a year between you release the Ender-3 V3 SE and a Cura version is released with a definition for it built in.

    ...but thanks for giving me the most popular post for the month when I posted the definition for it with installation instructions 😄

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    Posted · Can't connect to Ender 3 V3 KE on the network.
    On 11/1/2024 at 10:09 AM, Dustin said:

    blame Creality, they spend their efforts on an alternative slicer instead of pushing their efforts to the main version and thus upset their customers such as yourself.

    I am not sure what that has to do with Cura putting in support for Creality's Printers. Isn't the software programming not allowing it to connect?

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    Posted · Can't connect to Ender 3 V3 KE on the network.
    54 minutes ago, n2rga said:

    I am not sure what that has to do with Cura putting in support for Creality's Printers. Isn't the software programming not allowing it to connect?

    UltiMaker Cura is designed to connect to UltiMaker brand 3d printers.

    Any 3rd party 3d printer it is also able to connect to is due to efforts by the community or the brand in question contributing support (or often a plugin) to allow it to connect to their 3d printers.

    If UltiMaker Cura is not able to connect to a 3d printer, the fault is the fault of the brand in question. 

    The reason I said blame Creality. They fork (or otherwise copy) the UltiMaker Cura code base as their own.
    They add their own branding in it, randomly break functionality in UltiMaker Cura (though this usually isn't intentional) and then build in support for their latest 3d printer. Then they dont offer any of their changes back to the original code base (UltiMaker Cura). So the support for their latest printer is not included in the up coming releases of UltiMaker Cura.
    This is 100% Creality's fault and it just causes their customers to get mad at UltiMaker for refusing to add support for their new printers in UltiMaker Cura which is entirely false from the start.

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    Posted · Can't connect to Ender 3 V3 KE on the network.
    9 hours ago, n2rga said:

    I am not sure what that has to do with Cura putting in support for Creality's Printers. Isn't the software programming not allowing it to connect?

    The network protocols for communication between UltiMaker 3D printers and Creality 3D printers are completely different.

     

    There isn't a standard, common language for all printers and slicers to speak to each other over a network - maybe there should be, but good luck getting all your big 3D printer manufacturers in a room and agreeing on something.

     

    So as @Dustin said, it's not UltiMaker's fault that Creality list Cura as supported software but Cura doesn't have support for it. At release they said the Ender-3 V3 SE supported Cura but they never bother submitting a definition file for any of their printers and it took about six months for a definition submitted by the community to ship in a Cura release (in the meantime I wrote my own; I didn't try submitting it because I was a lot greener in those days and wasn't 100% sure it was right) and I fielded many questions on the forum about why it wasn't in the list of printers.

     

    If Creality wanted to, they could submit printer definition files either before or (if they didn't want to give any hints about upcoming products) immediately after a printer's release and they would appear in a release version of Cura fairly quickly, but they don't. They could write a plugin for network support for their newer printers and at get it listed in the Marketplace, but they don't.

     

    UltiMaker make UltiMaker printers and add support for UltiMaker printers to Cura. It isn't their job to try and reverse engineer Creality's network protocol so that is supported in Cura, especially given Creality would be more than welcome to submit their own version, no reverse engineering required.

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