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Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

I have been having some trouble with my printer clogging the nozzle around 15 minutes into the print. If I stop the print and poke a 0.36mm needle in it seems to unclog and I can extrude normally. The print starts fine directly after O poke the nozzle, but clogs again shortly after.

The boden tube is not moving out of place and I am printing with stock settings. with the PLA adjusted to 2.82mm. I have tried other diameters, but the nozzle continues to clog. The average for 10 measurements of the PLA is 2.89mm, but it's still under extruding.

What do you guys think?

 

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    Have you tried cleaning the nozzle using the 'atomic' method to pull any debris out of the top end? It sounds a bit like the nozzle may have some debris in it which your needle pushes out of the way, but then it eventually settles back in place?

    Also, what temperature, speed and layer height are you printing with, and have you tried printing without the fan on to see if that makes a difference? Your fan could be inadvertently cooling your nozzle tip.

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    Have you tried cleaning the nozzle using the 'atomic' method to pull any debris out of the top end? It sounds a bit like the nozzle may have some debris in it which your needle pushes out of the way, but then it eventually settles back in place?

    Also, what temperature, speed and layer height are you printing with, and have you tried printing without the fan on to see if that makes a difference? Your fan could be inadvertently cooling your nozzle tip.

     

    WOW! I turned off the fan and it printed for a lot longer. However, it did begin to string again and then began to clog. I turned the fan all the way to 0 and increased temp to 235. It made somewhat of a recovery, but not fully. I have uploaded some photos. You can see where the error was noticed and settings changed. by 97% completion, the nozzle was completely clogged and no longer printing. I pricked it and the flow came back perfectly.

    Below are some photos throughout the print.

    Additionally, there are gaps at the crosses of my infil layers.

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    2014 05 25 18 04 03.487

    2014 05 25 17 54 20.318

    2014 05 25 17 22 09.963

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    Clean the nozzle with the Atomic method which is much easier on the UM Original.

    Heat head to 180C (or higher) then cool to 90C. The moment it hits 90C pull the filament out hard from the feeder. You should get a nozzle tip shaped end of filament. Inspect for dirt. cut it off and throw away, repeat several times. Poke that needle in the hole a few times also when still around 180C.

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    Or you can heat to 180c, then unscrew the nozzle (careful - many people break it - it's soft - brass maybe).

    Put it in a flame and burn everything out. Don't leave in flame too long or it will melt.

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    Thanks for the help guys. I have done the atomic method about 6 times, but I have only gotten results like the following. Jnzm1wD.jpg

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    I took the entire assembly apart and did a manual heat on the nozzle. I cleaned it out so that I gave me a good cone. I also cleaned out the brass pipe and thermal isolator. I changed back to the original Ultimaker filament and so far it's printing very well again. Hopefully it lasts, but this is easily the longest and best results I've gotten in 3 days. Here is the album of some images.

    http://imgur.com/a/cSoBv

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    Getting better results with the fan off suggests that the fan is blowing on the nozzle tip and cooling it, making extrusion harder.

    Check the fan alignment to make sure the nozzle tip isn't in the path of the airflow.

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    Ended up printing one of these. It printed well enough the first time so I'm printing another with the new cooling fan on to test whether it was cooling related. yavfSwW.jpg

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    ok, just be aware that there's a school of thought that says that design isn't much good, because it reduces the outflow area too much compared to the fan's intake area. The fans used on the UM1 aren't capable of generating much pressure, so they don't handle a reduction in outflow area well.

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    I have done the atomic method about 6 times, but I have only gotten results like the following.

     

    You did it either too cool or too hot. You should get a tip the shape of your nozzle tip. It helps to remove anything below the tip also. I think you did it slightly too hot. Try 3C cooler or let it cool for 5 more seconds at 90C. Or maybe it was the right temp you just need to let the upper parts cool for a few more seconds.

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    It might be the atomic method doesn't work through the bowden. I don't know if I've tried it on the UM1 through the bowden yet.

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    Printer is up and running and I'm starting to 'trust' it again with minimal supervision. That old shroud design wasn't working for me so I printed this. What does the hive mind say about this design?

    jy34Zpi.jpg

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    That looks like the fan shroud that I use on my Ultimaker Original - it should work pretty well.

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    I still have the original "origami" shroud. It was damaged so I repaired it with kapton tape and it works great. Kapton tape can touch the head and not melt.

     

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    Posted · Nozzle Clogging around 15 minutes into printing. - UM Original

    The original fan duct is ok, I used it for quite some time. However, it blows the air quite vertically and is suboptimal in terms of a clever air flow (offers too much resistance).

    I use http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:32491 (printed in XT with some ceramic tape for thermal isolation to the hotends) which works quite well with a dual extruder. It has a wide opening and directs the air flow exactly to where it is needed. I could e.g. significantly improve the quality of the right ear of the Ultimaker robot.

     

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