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Far from convinced in what terms? What do you still need to think that this is a working and easy to use dual extrusion setup? What video do you need?To be honest I'm far from convinced. Seems like the classic fixed setup. So I see a new cooling block, but apart form that what does this kit bring? I need to see many more close up photo's and video.....
To me the most interesting of this post is the availability and price (99,-) of the separately sold new + feeder.
OK. I'll go the extra mile
why don't you send us a part that you want to see printed, we print it and I'll send you the photos and maybe a timelapse? -
Congratulations Sam for your hard work, we are curious to see how it works. You have kept us in the dark for a long time
I think it is important to state that regardless of what the marketing and video might imply this is not an official Ultimaker product. Development has been done solely by Sam and Creatr.
Thanks Sander! Yes indeed. The product is called Ulticreatr 2X, is developed and made in Italy. I hope I made that clear.
The reason for the name is: ULTI since the upgrades made are to work for Ultimaker and CREATR since this is the name of the main company. That makes Ulticreatr.
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Yes, your solution when done correctly has the potential to be betterl. But since we needed to upgrade the current system we found that our solution worked bestWell I consider this more the standard dual-extrusion approach
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We tried both with nozzle lifting and without but we opted to not include all the necessary parts to do so. The isolator has space to fit a flat spring but we found that there weren't any noticeable improvements but only more difficulty and complexity. Our initial versions had this feature but we have it so that it works good even without nozzle lifting.
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If anybody is interested..
Here's the forum thread for the Ulticreatr 2X dual extruder for Ultimaker 3D Printers: https://ultimaker.com/en/community/20997-ulticreatr-2x-dual-extrusion-for-ultimaker-2-and-ultimaker-2
Hope you like it
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Yep, I was rightI got access to some leaked info...looks good!
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Yes we're still finalizing the online shop for foreign countries, At the moment it is better if you send us an email so you can order it like that. Thanks.Wait wait... so you are also selling an extruder upgrade only?
http://www.shop.creatr.it/en/um2-spare-parts-and-upgrades/201-feeder-upgrade-ultimaker-2.html
Is that the "official" one?
On and when I am in your shop, I can only choose between Italy and UK as my country - neither is which I life in ^^
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All the feeders and feeder motors that we sell are original and supplied by Ultimaker. The product that you linked only includes the feeder and the feeder motor + the bracket that we make in Italy.Wait wait... so you are also selling an extruder upgrade only?
http://www.shop.creatr.it/en/um2-spare-parts-and-upgrades/201-feeder-upgrade-ultimaker-2.html
Is that the "official" one?
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It's a bit unclear what 'mods' are needed for um2 non plus or umo+. Also the photo shows 2 extruders boxes but only one motor. So I assume that's an error? A bit of info about what's included (even if it's a vague information) could be nice. Also, I would like to see more print shoots with print time and basic settings used.
Sure. The UM2 does not require any mods. We just supply an extra UM2+ feeder and feeder motor.
The UMO+ requires that you make yourself (or buy) the parts to hold the alluminium brackets (in the kit we only supply the bottom one). Also you need to make a piece that holds the new UM2+ feeders. Lastly you need to change the firmware so that it supports dual extrusion. In future we will have a dedicated solution but we're currently focused on UM2 and UM2+.
Why do you say 2 extruder boxes and one motor? There are always two motors and two feeders.
In the photo you can see the configuration of what's included (UM2 version): Two UM2+ feeders, two UM2+ feeder motors, bottom alluminium bracket, fan bracket, 5V fan and cables, 2 isolators, 2 springs, 4 couplers, 2 T-RINGS (under the couplers), two bowden tubes, 4 heater cartridges and 2 sensors, 8 nozzles, 2 heater blocks, 2 spacers, screws, feeder front and back plate, alluminium heatsink, tools, firmware, manual.
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Why we need the help of the community?
Let's make Ultimaker SW Engineers put Dual Extrusion at the top of the list of things needed for the new Cura so that we can all use our favourite latest software
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After 18 months of development and an infinite amount of iterations we're ready to announce this great piece of news!
Introducing the Ulticreatr 2X: Dual extruder upgrade for Ultimaker 2 and Ultimaker 2+ 3D printers.
We too think that Ultimaker 3D printers are currently the best desktop machines but still know there's something missing.
That something is called Dual Extrusion.
What does it bring?
It brings a whole new dimension to desktop 3D Printing!
Dual extrusion with the Ultimaker 2 allows:
- SOLUBLE SUPPORT STRUCTURES: 3D Print soluble support structures that can be dissolved easily and quickly. No more geometry limits and support structure removal scars.
- DUAL MATERIAL: Combine materials inside the same part: hard core and soft shell is a great example of this.
- DUAL COLOUR: Two colour prints are great to show certain surfaces of the part. They look great too!
- DUAL DIAMETER: Speed up 3D Printing by combining two different nozzles: a more precise one for the outer-inner surfaces and a larger one for stronger infill and superfast 3D prints.
Here's a photo of what it contains:
MATERIALS
A major breakthrough is the development of compatible soluble support for PLA and PLA/PHA blends. In collaboration with a chemical partner we have developed:SM-310, a soluble material that quickly dissolves in Limonene (natural source) and can be easily and reliably 3D printed.
SOFTWARE
Ulticreatr 2X works with all common slicing software: Cura, Simplify3D and Slic3r to generate the correct toolpaths and do the required tool change operations. There are dedicated slicing profiles available for download that can be quickly imported.
The Ulticreatr 2X is available in two versions: Ultimaker 2 and Ultimaker 2+ version. The latter includes only one of the latest Ultimaker 2+ feeders.
The kit is available now and starts from € 495.
For more information write on this forum thread or send us an email at: info@creatr.it or check out our website: www.ulticreatr.com
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I got access to some leaked info...looks good!
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Ciao!
Hmm molto probabilmente è comunque un problema di allineamento mentre hai montato il kit. Muovendolo a mano il movimento ti sembra duro e a scatti in alcuni punti?
Di dove sei? Noi siamo rivenditori, se vuoi contattaci tramite mail a: support@creatr.it
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So is the UM2+ stepper motor more powerful or have a better torque curve? Or is it just the same as the UM2 but with a shorter axis?
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Yeah. It just never happened to me that the hot end couldn't stay stable at a certain temperature. That's why I wasn't thinking about it...
thankss
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I still don't get why everyone says a more powerful heater (i.e the 35W) allows you to print faster?! I mean having more power just allows you to potentially reach a higher max temperature of the system and a shorter heat up time..
There are many factors that affect flow rate: temperature is one but power is not..
Can someone confirm?
Otherwise why don't we just put a 1000W cartridge and print at say: 500mm3/s??
That would be cool!
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Ciao!
Mi dispiace per i problemi che stai avendo recentemente. Se è da un anno che la stai utilizzando può darsi che devi semplicemente fare manutenzione per far ritornare la Ultimaker 2 al top. Se vai in MAINTENANCE > ADVANCED vedi che puoi controllare quante ore di stampa e metri di materiale hai stampato.
Se hai bisogno di fare manutenzione la possiamo fare noi, Creatr, in quanto rivenditori ufficiali Ultimaker.
Sam | CREATR
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Ciao Domenico,
Per quanto riguarda impostare la velocità puoi usare il plugin "tweakatz" per fare le modifiche da un certo layer in poi. Troverai che puoi settare velocità, temperatura, flusso ecc.
Sam | CREATR
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Yeah cross contamination is there but it is actually from the active nozzle rather than the inactive one. It's possible to improve that but isn't a major issue in these prints since it just gets stuck in support material and it will be removed.Think the top pic shows a lot of cross contamination. ...
What's the size of the other parts? Are they so small the 'other' nozzle is not hovering over them?
How do you prevent leaking? Let the nozzle cool between every change?
The Parts are big the photos that has both pieces printed, occupies more than half build plate in one direction.
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Thanks!!
wow! Sweeeet! Curious to see it work!
Guess time will tell?! Aww.. come on! We want a great product as much as you do! (if not more)Well I hope you are not teasing us again and it's actually going to turn into a product This time.
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It's the same assembly you posted a while ago?
Do you have a video maybe?
No it isn't. Completely different. Videos not yet (sorry) as we still prefer to keep the design to ourselves. For the moment obviously.
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Hello Didier,
Yes sure! Part material is ColorFabb XT.
Not much to manage the two print heads since it is actually only one "print head" and two separate nozzles.
Uses many stock parts to minimize cost and make it easy to assemble.
Here's a dual color print
and another..
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ANYONE FANCY DUAL EXTRUSION?
... ON AN ULTIMAKER 2?
why don't you send us a part that you want to see printed, we print it and I'll send you the photos and maybe a timelapse?
wow! Sweeeet! Curious to see it work!
Ulticreatr 2X: Dual extrusion for Ultimaker 2 and Ultimaker 2+
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Regarding the couplers: those couplers are relatively cheap so there is no reason to sell a kit without some spares. As you may confirm: the first thing you need to replace (a part from filament) is the coupler so we just saved you shipping and lost time after about 400 hours of printing