Thanks guys,
I am out all day today but will try again on my return.
The main issue is when the nozzle is so far away the PLA does not adhering to the glass, it is cooling before hitting the glass then just getting dragged around the plate and sticking to the nozzle.
Each time i have levelled i ensure that it nips the paper on all 3 locations. I can get great prints when running the minicaltest and tweaking the height by eye as it goes around the bed perimeter but its a real pain to keep doing this.