Question on connecting thermistor

[kazzaqov 0]

Hello everyone,

after another jam I've reassembled the head of the printer and looks like pressed thermocouple cable too much. Can you please advice me on how to re-connect it? If I connect it touching to heater, it creates shortage and sparks, so printer does not turn on. If I just make it touch the metal part of the head, I think the readings are wrong because it heats too slow and temperature measurments are definetely wrongs (I tried touching it at 40 degrees....well that was not 40 degrees)

help much appreciated. Should I somehow put thermocouple cable into that golden plated circle (on the heater side)?

 

[jonnybischof 60]

I'd recommend you get a replacement for that..

Be aware that this is not a thermistor but a thermocouple. You should get a replacement from UM, I don't think you'll find a perfect replacement elsewhere.

And don't turn it on again if it goes sparky on you! You might have to replace other things as well (like the thermocouple amplifier board if you shorted the heater's power path to the very low voltage thermocouple inputs). You can check the amp board for visual damage like burnt parts, but don't count on it...

Thinking about it, I can't really think of anything that would create sparks but the heater cartridge. The thermocouple generates it's own voltage (only about a millivolt) which is amplified on the amp board. Shorting a thermocouple results in nothing but getting a "zero" reading (might be your 40 degrees, I'm not sure about the details as I mostly worked on the hardware part, not the calculations). Are you sure the heater cartridge cables are ok? No burnt insulation?

 

[kazzaqov 0]

Thanks for correcting me. Not an expert in hardware. Well the thermocouple reads not only 40 degrees, it reads everything from room temperature till 220 or more. But It reads it wrongs, it heats too slow and I'm afraid when it reached 220 degrees (when I was preheating PLA), the real temperature was much higher, thats why the printer turned off. Unfortunately I cant get anything from UM because I'm from Russia. The thermocouple looked like this even before the issue, I've had a kapton tape around the head, I've detached it to make a photo. So I guess the kapton was the thing that connected thermocouple to what it should connect.

Everything on the amp board looks fine. So, any suggestions on how to reconnect it? I still believe it reads wrong temperature because I connected it wrong.

 

[kazzaqov 0]

Ok so I've figured out how to assemble it properly, now everything works fine.

 

[jonnybischof 60]

Okay, as long as you don't get any short-circuits anymore, it should be fine...

I'd keep an eye on that though.

 

[kararsiz 0]

Hi, good to know you managed to connect it on your own without any issues. I’m surprised that there wasn’t any need of replacement on the amplifier board, they must have got good protection in it. Can you please tell me what exactly the issue in connecting the cable was?

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