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I am wondering what you may have learned in this pursuit. I didn't notice when you originally posted.
I can't answer your questions 1 & 2.
The parts I print are typically structural working prototypes or final use parts in natural ABS. Usually parts are geometric enough that I can find creative ways to cut them into pieces with CAD before printing and bond them together post printing with acetone. I this way, I avoid alot of bridges.
Occasionally on horizontal (planar) overhangs, I have had success printing a med or low density support, with a high density, but under-extruded support interface, a support horizontal expansion, and a one layer Z gap. Printing this way without any bridge settings activated has allowed the support to break loose without high difficulty, leaving a rough but consistent overhang. I should play around with the bridge settings in this scenario to see if any advantages can be gained, maybe forego the gap layer. I'm not sure all the bridge settings were available when was initially figuring out how to print this type of part/material.
If I pursue unsupported bridging with ABS, I would try a combination of the following (my conjecture based on experience printing ABS, not necessarily bridging);
Turn off the fan. I never use fan (don't have one) with ABS, but watch that layer times don't get too short
Under-extrude by 50% or more.
Set bridge speeds high. Consider the stringing that happens in travel moves w/o retraction. I think you want to go fast enough that the line can't solidify (stays elastic) until the nozzle finishes the span.
Maybe use TweakAtZ to bump the temp a few deg for the bridge layer(s). Probably difficult to control and maybe has to be done in advance of the bridge layer.
Thanks for taking the time to reply and the suggestions. I've actually not made much progress on the bridging front since I think I may have jumped the gun in trying to tackle that before optimizing other thing like print speed and temp. It would be great if there was a flowchart that covered what to tune and in which order when starting with a new material. I did find something like what I'm describing on thingiverse but as of this moment I'm trying to figure out why CURA sliced prints are coming out poorly when it comes to fine lines which print fine when sliced with a different app. I did receive some good feedback and will try the implementing it momentarily. When I finish with these steps I'll come back to trying bridging again.
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I am wondering what you may have learned in this pursuit. I didn't notice when you originally posted.
I can't answer your questions 1 & 2.
The parts I print are typically structural working prototypes or final use parts in natural ABS. Usually parts are geometric enough that I can find creative ways to cut them into pieces with CAD before printing and bond them together post printing with acetone. I this way, I avoid alot of bridges.
Occasionally on horizontal (planar) overhangs, I have had success printing a med or low density support, with a high density, but under-extruded support interface, a support horizontal expansion, and a one layer Z gap. Printing this way without any bridge settings activated has allowed the support to break loose without high difficulty, leaving a rough but consistent overhang. I should play around with the bridge settings in this scenario to see if any advantages can be gained, maybe forego the gap layer. I'm not sure all the bridge settings were available when was initially figuring out how to print this type of part/material.
If I pursue unsupported bridging with ABS, I would try a combination of the following (my conjecture based on experience printing ABS, not necessarily bridging);
Turn off the fan. I never use fan (don't have one) with ABS, but watch that layer times don't get too short
Under-extrude by 50% or more.
Set bridge speeds high. Consider the stringing that happens in travel moves w/o retraction. I think you want to go fast enough that the line can't solidify (stays elastic) until the nozzle finishes the span.
Maybe use TweakAtZ to bump the temp a few deg for the bridge layer(s). Probably difficult to control and maybe has to be done in advance of the bridge layer.
Bridge wall coasting seems like a good idea
Try multiple bridge layers
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Thanks for taking the time to reply and the suggestions. I've actually not made much progress on the bridging front since I think I may have jumped the gun in trying to tackle that before optimizing other thing like print speed and temp. It would be great if there was a flowchart that covered what to tune and in which order when starting with a new material. I did find something like what I'm describing on thingiverse but as of this moment I'm trying to figure out why CURA sliced prints are coming out poorly when it comes to fine lines which print fine when sliced with a different app. I did receive some good feedback and will try the implementing it momentarily. When I finish with these steps I'll come back to trying bridging again.
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