Jump to content
UltiMaker Community of 3D Printing Experts

3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem


thegamersite

Recommended Posts

Posted · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

So, I finished building my 3D printer. I installed the firmware, etc. Whenever I try to print in repetier the X and Y axis move really fast while the Z axis doesn't go up nor down. I have tried so much to fix but I just can't find a solution. Also, I have the MK9 Extruder and for some reason the extruder doesn't feed the filament, it just stays there. In case you ask, I have not be able to print anything.

There is a video of the process, and sorry for the mess.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_tLiShymRE

  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Posted · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

    You don't really belong here as this is not a UM and not Cura but whatever. :)

    Did you try swapping cables between X axis and Z just to see if you can move the Z axis with the X driver and vice-versa? This will reduce the possible causes.

  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Posted · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

    You don't really belong here as this is not a UM and not Cura but whatever.  :)

    Did you try swapping cables between X axis and Z just to see if you can move the Z axis with the X driver and vice-versa?  This will reduce the possible causes.

     

    What do you mean I don't belong here? This is for Cura and Marlin. I posted this here because Marlin is the program I am using for the firmware.

    I tested it the way you said and the Z axis from the left seems to rotate when I connect it to the X axis pins  but when I put it back where both Z axis go, it doesn't rotate.

  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Posted (edited) · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

    Check the pins on the Z-Axis cable compared to the X-Axis cable and make sure the all the wires go to the same pins. There may be reversed wires on the Z-Axis cable or that cable may just be bad.

    Also: Sounds like you have 2 Z-Axis motors (I can't view your video at the moment). Your Pots for the Z-Axis may be tuned too low and not provided enough power to turn both Z-Axis motors at the same time. Try connecting just your single X-Axis motor to the Z-Axis socket on your board and see if that rotates it.

    Edited by Guest
  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Posted · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

    Check the pins on the Z-Axis cable compared to the X-Axis cable and make sure the all the wires go to the same pins. There may be reversed wires on the Z-Axis cable or that cable may just be bad.

    Also: Sounds like you have 2 Z-Axis motors (I can't view your video at the moment). Your Pots for the Z-Axis may be tuned too low and not provided enough power to turn both Z-Axis motors at the same time. Try connecting just your single X-Axis motor to the Z-Axis socket on your board and see if that rotates it.

     

    I started to switch some of the extruder with one another. I see that the Z axis to the left only rotates counter clockwise but not clockwise. The Z axis from the right doesn't rotate from neither sides.

  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Posted · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

    I started to switch some of the extruder with one another. I see that the Z axis to the left only rotates counter clockwise but not clockwise. The Z axis from the right doesn't rotate from neither sides.

     

    There should be 4 wires going to each stepper, right? I think there are 24 ways those 4 wires can be wired. About 8 of the way the stepper go one way, 8 go the other way, and the remaining wirings won't let the stepper move at all or it will barely kind of vibrate.

    I would check that the wiring is the same for all steppers as DaHai8 said.

  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Posted · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

     

    I started to switch some of the extruder with one another. I see that the Z axis to the left only rotates counter clockwise but not clockwise. The Z axis from the right doesn't rotate from neither sides.

     

    There should be 4 wires going to each stepper, right?  I think there are 24 ways those 4 wires can be wired.  About 8 of the way the stepper go one way, 8 go the other way, and the remaining wirings won't let the stepper move at all or it will barely kind of vibrate.

    I would check that the wiring is the same for all steppers as DaHai8 said.

     

    They all look the same for me. I see that same color pattern for all 4 motors. I use the Nema 17 stepper motors.

  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Posted · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

    Ok. If I'm understanding correctly:

    1) The Left Z-Axis Motor only rotates counter-clockwise not matter which connector (X or Y) you plug it into,

    2) The Right Z-Axis Motor doesn't rotate at all no matter what connect you plug it into

    3) You have a Ramps board

    4) All you cables are pinned the same: same wires go to same pins on every cable.

    5) Plugging your X-Axis Motor or Y-Axis motor into either Z-Axis sockets and they turn? (True or False?)

    If 5 is TRUE, you probably have bad Z-Axis motors (that's pretty rare, though).

    If 5 is FALSE, you probably have a bad Ramps board

    I don't know what kit you are building but this site that may help you double-check everything:

    https://asensar.com/docs/woodmax/0001-6_woodmax_electronics/

  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Posted · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

    Here's a discussion on the RepRap forum covering this issue:

    http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?4,499220

    One user found their pins in the cables was pushing back when connecting to the motor or board and so it was not making good contact.

    Hope this helps.

  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Posted · 3D Printer XYZ Axis Problem

    Ok. If I'm understanding correctly:

    1) The Left Z-Axis Motor only rotates counter-clockwise not matter which connector (X or Y) you plug it into,

    2) The Right Z-Axis Motor doesn't rotate at all no matter what connect you plug it into

    3) You have a Ramps board

    4) All you cables are pinned the same: same wires go to same pins on every cable.

    5) Plugging your X-Axis Motor or Y-Axis motor into either Z-Axis sockets and they turn? (True or False?)

    If 5 is TRUE, you probably have bad Z-Axis motors (that's pretty rare, though).

    If 5 is FALSE, you probably have a bad Ramps board

    I don't know what kit you are building but this site that may help you double-check everything:

    https://asensar.com/docs/woodmax/0001-6_woodmax_electronics/

     

    1 - That's correct. However, after making some adjustment that I even forgot, the left Z axis now does not even rotate at all. It used to rotate counter clockwise but now when I press move .01 or .1 to the right it just rotate slightly and then it rotates clockwise to the original position.

    2 - It does rotates when I put it into a different pin. I just used my multi-meter to adjust the stepper drivers to about .55 volts and still the right Z axis won't rotate at all.

    3 - Yes, I have the Ramp 1.4 board with the Arduino Mega.

    4 - Yes, the cables are correct as I previously said.

    5 - I think I already tried that but I don't remember so i might check again.

  • Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Create an account or sign in to comment

    You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

    Create an account

    Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

    Register a new account

    Sign in

    Already have an account? Sign in here.

    Sign In Now
    • Our picks

      • UltiMaker Cura 5.3 stable released
        In this stable release, Cura 5.3 achieves yet another huge leap forward in 3D printing thanks to material interlocking! As well as introducing an expanded recommended print settings menu and lots of print quality improvements. Not to mention, a whole bunch of new printer profiles for non-UltiMaker printers!
        • 30 replies
      • Here it is. The new UltiMaker S7
        The UltiMaker S7 is built on the success of the UltiMaker S5 and its design decisions were heavily based on feedback from customers.
         
         
        So what’s new?
        The obvious change is the S7’s height. It now includes an integrated Air Manager. This filters the exhaust air of every print and also improves build temperature stability. To further enclose the build chamber the S7 only has one magnetically latched door.
         
        The build stack has also been completely redesigned. A PEI-coated flexible steel build plate makes a big difference to productivity. Not only do you not need tools to pop a printed part off. But we also don’t recommend using or adhesion structures for UltiMaker materials (except PC, because...it’s PC). Along with that, 4 pins and 25 magnets make it easy to replace the flex plate perfectly – even with one hand.
         
        The re-engineered print head has an inductive sensor which reduces noise when probing the build plate. This effectively makes it much harder to not achieve a perfect first layer, improving overall print success. We also reversed the front fan direction (fewer plastic hairs, less maintenance), made the print core door magnets stronger, and add a sensor that helps avoid flooding.
         

         
        The UltiMaker S7 also includes quality of life improvements:
        Reliable bed tilt compensation (no more thumbscrews) 2.4 and 5 GHz Wi-Fi A 1080p camera (mounted higher for a better view) Compatibility with 280+ Marketplace materials Compatibility with S5 project files (no reslicing needed) And a whole lot more  
        Curious to see the S7 in action?
        We’re hosting a free tech demo on February 7.
        It will be live and you can ask any questions to our CTO, Miguel Calvo.
        Register here for the Webinar
        • 18 replies
      • UltiMaker Cura Alpha 🎄 Tree Support Spotlight 🎄
        Are you a fan of tree support, but dislike the removal process and the amount of filament it uses? Then we would like to invite you to try this special release of UltiMaker Cura. Brought to you by our special community contributor @thomasrahm
         
        We generated a special version of Cura 5.2 called 5.3.0 Alpha + Xmas. The only changes we introduced compared to UltiMaker Cura 5.2.1 are those which are needed for the new supports. So keep in mind, this is not a sneak peek for Cura 5.3 (there are some really cool new features coming up) but a spotlight release highlighting this new version of tree supports.  
          • Heart
          • Like
        • 22 replies
    ×
    ×
    • Create New...