Does Factor 4 have input shaper, vibration compensation?
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On 10/20/2024 at 11:17 AM, cjack said:Does Factor 4 have input shaper, vibration compensation?
No, the Factor 4 has no modern 3D-printing Features like input shaper oder vibration compensation. This is why the Factor 4 is inferior to modern printers (like Bambu Lab or Prusa) in terms of print preparation time, print speed and sometimes also print quality.
I'd be really cautious about making such a statement.
I own some Bambu Labs machines and they have a smaller print volume than the Ultimaker S5/S7 and Factor 4.
There is a lot to like about how Bambu Labs machines work and their spin on Orca Slicer is impressive.
But if you're looking to print exotic, almost experimental materials, the Ultimaker machines are made with higher quality components. You're talking about machines aimed at different requirements and price points. The Bambu Labs machine, say the X1C, is aimed at a $1500+/- price point. The Ultimakers aren't targeting the hobby users that demand low cost everything.
My Bambu Labs machines I have had a few parts issues that have needed to be replaced. To their credit, those components are available pretty quickly and the machine is good at informing the user on what's wrong and what maintenance should be done.
At work, my 7 S5's have been pretty solid. They may not print at Voron / Bambu Lab speeds, but I get consistently good prints, few failures and the slicer profiles make utilizing supported vendor materials pretty easy.
It's too early to tell how the Bambu Labs machines will fare over time. However, there are many, many places that have labs and print farms with many Ultimakers in use, giving reliable prints.
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I must add that my comment is of course only my opinion. Others may have had better experiences. However, I have been using a Factor 4 at work for about 4 months and also use a Bambulab A1 at home.
I agree with you about the buildquality and the choice of materials / components. These are great. The printer is also superior to hobby printers like the A1 in terms of print volume, heating, keeping Materials dry (material station) und printing with support Material. In addition, the design of the Factor 4 is very modern and Just nice, although this is comparatively unimportant.
However, my experience has shown that everything other than the hardware cannot keep up with the current standard in the mid Tier hobby sector. Cura delivers (in my opinion) significantly worse results than Prusa Slicer or Bambu Slicer. It is more complicated to use (manual Support placement, cutting parts, automatic alignment...) and also quite cluttered. The material profiles that can be downloaded from the third party store are hardly adapted to the materials themselves (It feels more like a gimmick to me). The material synchronization between the printer and Cura works poorly or not at all for the most part. Bed leveling is slow and is always performed on the entire print bed. The heating phase takes quite a long time. I have to go through a cooling phase before I can print the next part, even if the same parameters are to be used in the next print. The preset Ultimaker material profiles are not ideal and cannot be compared with those of Bambulab (in my Opinion, i used ABS, tough PLA, Breakaway Support and Nylon). The selection of good or usable support materials is very limited (I now use BASF BVOH and Xioneer VXL 90, as the Ultimaker PVA and Breakaway do not convince me). And above all, the modern features already mentioned, which enable fast and very clean printing (input shaper oder vibration compensation), are missing. Just to name a few reasons for my comment)
All in all, I have to say that I am impressed by the hardware (especially the material station and the superb Build plate), but the software and especially the lack of modern features are very disappointing.
Perhaps my expectations for the Factor 4 were too high and that's why I'm disappointed. Or I am too perfectionist with regard to the surface quality of the prints. After all, this is a product for industrial Use and not for the hobbyist (tough my hobby prints do look better in too many occasions)
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