UM2+ or UM2+ Extended

[gholland 2]

I am purchasing my first 3D printer, and after months of research I've finally decided on purchasing the new UM2+. However, I cannot decide which model to purchase. The UM2+ or UM2 Extended+

From what I can tell the only difference is the additional height of the Extended model. Unless I am not getting it, you can still build the same items in both printers, you will just break it into smaller pieces in the UM2+. Is this assumption correct?

I've also read some reviews on the UM2 Extended, older version, that it had some issues with the Extruder. From what I can tell both printers have the same internals, so is this really the case?

Has anyone else purchased the UM2 Extended+ ... if so can you tell me what you think?

I would appreciate any help or advice.

thanks,

-gary

[IRobertI 520]

The only difference is the height.

[gholland 2]

I guess the final question is ... is it worth the additional $500?

What criteria would you use to determine which one?

If you had a project that can be built in the Extended+, but must be broken up for the UM2+, is the work required to break it up that time consuming as to justify the difference?

Since I've never owned a 3D printer I'm trying to get a handle on this.

thanks,

-gary

[IRobertI 520]

It's very difficult for someone else to judge what time is worth to you. Do you foresee printing a lot of models that would require the full height of the Extended? Or is it only a small percentage of what you're planning to do with the printer? Would spending 10 minutes to a few hours on gluing and maybe hiding the seam be less valuable to you than $500?

Try downloading cura (it's free), add one Ultimaker 2 and one extended and then load up a few models and play around with it (as long as the model is yellow, it'll print). That way it's easier to get a feel for what the difference in height actually means for you.

[niyoki 21]

If you want learn so many things about 3d printing buy Ultimaker Original DIY Kit. All this machines has same printing Quality. But when you can build your Ultimaker Original you will get know how what you also Need for using other machines. If you have enough money, hobby room and you are comfortable take an Ultimaker 2 Extended+. But People talking also about Ultimaker will release one new machine this year. I own UMO+ but UMO is really right choice.

good luck

[jameshs 42]

I have been printing for three years and when they brought out the extended I thought 'why?' as in all that time I have never been limited by height. I have wanted a bigger bed plenty of ties though, but after a while you will discover that it not the same thing.

If I (personally) were buying a UM2xx I would buy the standard UM2+

Unless you have a need for taller prints .......

[niyoki 21]

You Need Extended. If you want print art objects or statues for example Eiffel Tower, Statue Of Liberty and so many other tricky stuff. But overall Ultimaker Original kit, heated bed upgrade kit (if you print only with PLA you don't need this) and dual Extrusion kit (if you think one color is enough you don't need this too) together is the right choise if you can build it yourself.

regards and have fun

p.s. I forgot to tell you "WELCOME":) to the Ultimaker user friendly community Forum.

[gholland 2]

Thanks for all the help and comments.

This morning I ordered the Ultimaker 2 Extended+

[niyoki 21]

Right choice. Now you can do a training with Cura. Art dream becomes true..

[cloakfiend 995]

Just out of curiosity, due to the um2+ having the ob, i'll assume it doesn't have that weird white thing my um2 came with, and now just flaps about annoyingly, what is its purpose???? its annoying me now, as i cant see the state of the entire nozzle, and blocks my view in general. is it safe to remove completely?

[IRobertI 520]

You mean the little ring that sits around the nozzle? That's there to prevent plastic getting into the fan shroud in case something goes wrong. Anyone who's had that happen knows what a pain it is to clean up.

You can remove it if you want. But you might also be able to adjust the shroud and/or nozzle so that the nozzle goes down further. Loosen the four screws of the fan shroud and see if you can shift it up slightly. You could also give the ring with holes in it a couple of turns to move the nozzle down.

[cloakfiend 995]

Thanks, yes that white ring around the nozzle. I cant believe so many people had such a problem , ive never had anything so bad that it caused issues. Ive had a few string prints as i call them, but they just caused a massive mess a vacuum would sort out in a few seconds.

[IRobertI 520]

No vacuum in the world could clean up that mess when it happens. Essentially the entire nozzle+block gets buried in a solid block of plastic and glued to the fan shroud.

[cloakfiend 995]

lol, no of course not the nozzle, its melted! i meant when it just prints crazy in the air due to a bad model and a spool jam at once!! after 12hrs you just get a clump of clown hair as i call it with thousand of bits of plastic around it all over the bottom, in the main screw as well, lol. i only print my models now so that ever happened again.

[gareee 39]

We decided on the extended as well, after talking to a few ultimaker owners who wish they had purchased the extended. We also plan on ding costume props, and in many cases, you want to print as large as possible to reduce assembling parts together.

[cloakfiend 995]

I think you made the right choice for props. for high res stuff, i just don't see the point, it would take weeks!. personally, id prefer a wider printer than a taller printer.

Edited January 21, 2016 by Guest

[niyoki 21]

Wider printbed can be also interesting. But some solutions for warping is also needed. I know abs juice or other tricks holding bottom on the place but sometimes removing parts from print bed can also be really difficult.

[gareee 39]

I would have liked if the extended had a bigger printbed, but figured the taller height might be just enough to get me by without having to cut something up and create assembly issues.

[cloakfiend 995]

Wider printbed can be also interesting. But some solutions for warping is also needed. I know abs juice or other tricks holding bottom on the place but sometimes removing parts from print bed can also be really difficult.

 

i print in pla so warping is a non issue. just for abs people.

[gholland 2]

Wider printbed can be also interesting. But some solutions for warping is also needed. I know abs juice or other tricks holding bottom on the place but sometimes removing parts from print bed can also be really difficult.

 

It would be nice to have wider, but of all the printers I looked at the wider ones could not meet the quality of the UM2E+ ... The height which this printer can print to would match the wider beds.  Also I would think you could layout your print (model) diagonally which would give you more space.

Edited January 21, 2016 by Guest

[cloakfiend 995]

logos and flat stuff is far better flat, whilst costume making and vase making benefits from taller printer.

[niyoki 21]

I'm using also only pla. Abs is because of smell and high print temperature not so good choice for me.. I'm more interested about printing mechanical objects. like clocks, or some good old toys. Abs is not strong enough too (for example springs).

[cloakfiend 995]

if you find the right glue/hairspray, then taking things off the plate is not a problem, there are many methods including air duster cans held upside down. even if i cover the entire base i can always take it off without a problem. just wait for it to cool, or super cool it. put it in the fridge.

dont waste your time using abs juice on pla that is madness and overkill.

Edited January 21, 2016 by Guest