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ivan-lipunov

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Dear Ultimaker team! Dear community!

Disclaimer

I don't want to be rude to a large portion of the community, but I think it's the only option that will be able to dot the "i", and perhaps will bring the calm to one, and some lil' money to others. And peace for everyone ;)

Historically, every update since Ultimaker Original to a product line called marvelous bickering and mutual accusations in various bad deeds. A few hours ago there was even a conspiracy theory.

I humbly propose to make for the dissatisfied part of the community a Special Upgrade Pack, which includes everything necessary to convert UM2/UM2+ to UM3 (including backplate). And that's all. Naturally (we, I hope, all remember about the peculiarities of regulation of wages and production in the Euro area) the price will be so high that only a few will really get it. But the status quo will be restored and next time we will not see such a shitstorm like this and a couple previous ones.

All peace, kindness and understanding.

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Oh but then people would complain about the price. UM couldn't make it cheaper to buy a UM2 + upgrade instead of a UM3 (then they wouldn't sell any UM3s and UM3 owners would get pissed that they got screwed on price). So they have to make it more expensive, and then people would complain about that.

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I'm not suggesting to drop the price. Make all to be honest. According to my quick calculations it will be around 2400-2800 euros. Correct me if it is wrong calculation, and does not violate the NDA.

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    Oh but then people would complain about the price. UM couldn't make it cheaper to buy a UM2 + upgrade instead of a UM3 (then they wouldn't sell any UM3s and UM3 owners would get pissed that they got screwed on price). So they have to make it more expensive, and then people would complain about that.

    When the UM2+ first came out and all the shops dropped the price on the UM2 it was cheaper to get a UM2 and upgrade kit. I, and many others, still went with the UM2+

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    Oh but then people would complain about the price. UM couldn't make it cheaper to buy a UM2 + upgrade instead of a UM3 (then they wouldn't sell any UM3s and UM3 owners would get pissed that they got screwed on price). So they have to make it more expensive, and then people would complain about that.

    When the UM2+ first came out and all the shops dropped the price on the UM2 it was cheaper to get a UM2 and upgrade kit. I, and many others, still went with the UM2+

    All UM2 owners would not refuse a two-headed print! I'm one of them, dammit! I understand that (perhaps) without colliding even once with the development of a device and launching it into production, the idea of collecting changes between versions in one box and sell for, say, 500 euros looks reasonable. But, alas, it is not. Not even close. I have 9 years of experience as a system administrator and service engineer, and a couple of my own projects to launch into production. And based on this experience I can't imagine an upgrade is lower than the amount mentioned above. While I am not a resident of the Eurozone, I have a much more liberal legislation in this regard. Price is possible that it is even higher. And it's not because the evil developers want to earn an extra dollar. But because there is a responsibility to investors, there are a variety of constraints in terms of hardware and software, scientific research itself in order to make the product the most effective and cost serious money.

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    I imagine all UMO(+) users must be smiling at this upgrade kit discussion... ;)

    I for one am really annoyed - I bought my UMO three years ago and I get what? - nothing??? - oh yeah, I drew a + on it and there is no room for another one - I am really annoyed about that! :)

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