I believe heat and gas/chemicals are used to dissolve all the unwanted material. This requires additional equipment yes, quite expensive. There are companies that provide this as a service though if you are interested.
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Any one already tried printing with this Metal?
We are really curious about it, but are wondering how the tolerances will be be after the postprocessing.
and are there any limitations compared to "plastic" printing ?
Hi @dsp, you should give it a try and let us know your experiences on the process and the results. But before you try I can already give you some more information to manage your expectations;
One of the major limitations compared to plastic 3D printing is that for metal the maximum volume of a 3D printed part can not exceed 100x100x100mm. This has to do with the post processing steps and the fragility of the brown part. With a larger print the structural stability and correct compensation for shrinkage can not be guaranteed .
With the developments in Cura 5(.1) we can guarantee tolerances on a sintered part below 0.4mm throughout the maximum volume of 100x100x100mm. Even more technical; internal porosity has been calculated to be between 3 and 4% (vs total volume). The grade of steel you can print with, that we will provide, is confirmed to be 17-4PH (which stands for 17% Chromium, 4% Nickel, and below 0.07% Carbon-Martensitic grade.)
If you have any specific questions about your application and the use of metal for it feel free to reach out! Have a great day and looking forward hearing from you,
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Thanks for the extra information Sander,
Sadly I don't control the budget, but we will see what we can get, is the tolerance the same with 316L as with the 17-4Ph.
the 100x100x100mm will limit the type of parts we can do with it but who knows.
Next to the CC .6 core and filament, will we need other things to be able to print with this?
I must say the BASF guideline helps in understanding the limitations to this way of metal printing.
Hi @dsp, thank you bringing that up. While some of the biggest components (Metal filament and Cura 5) are already available, some key pieces are still missing that could make the whole journey a lot easier (as you are used from Ultimaker.) I don't know if you watched our Showcase in April? If so you may remember that near the end we said we're working on such a metal solution, and while I am probably not allowed to say when it will launch exactly, I can say it is soon (not tomorrow-soon though!).
You indeed need print cores, proper adhesive and depending on what you wish to print you might need support material. And don't forget, you may know it already if you read up on the subject and I also see it in the guidelines you shared, your 3D printed part also requires debinding and sintering!
Link to the metal segment of the Showcase in April:
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- 3 weeks later...
Does this work on the Ultimaker 3 and with the 3dsolex nozzle? Also, does Cura 5.1 automatically change the model when the filament is selected to the BASF filament or is there a setting that I'm missing?
14 hours ago, 3dprntz said:Does this work on the Ultimaker 3 and with the 3dsolex nozzle?
The nozzle is not the only factor in wear resistance. The UM3 feeder (on the back of the printer) is not designed to be used with abrasive materials. I don't know by heart if there is a profile for the BASF material on the UM3. If there isn't, the reason is probably that UM thinks that the UM3 is not abrasion-resistant enough.
1 hour ago, ahoeben said:The nozzle is not the only factor in wear resistance. The UM3 feeder (on the back of the printer) is not designed to be used with abrasive materials. I don't know by heart if there is a profile for the BASF material on the UM3. If there isn't, the reason is probably that UM thinks that the UM3 is not abrasion-resistant enough.
The feeder issue can be solved by "upgrading" to the S5-feeder (first version), which also includes the flow sensor.
I don't know how the activation of the "abrasive resistance feature" in the firmware works for acceptance of the CC cores or material profiles, but there must be a reason for this firmware entry...
Perhaps someone from Ultimaker (possibly @SandervG or @CarloK) could bring some light into the darkness?
Regards
@3dprntz The UM3 printer doesn't support printing the new metal filaments. The UM3 feeder would wear out too fast with these abrasive filaments. Since many of the S5 components are backwards compatible with the UM3, Ultimaker could consider to provide an upgrade kit (2x S5 feeder v1, new DD-type print core, enabling feature in the firmware), but I doubt this will ever happen. Printing metal parts is a new feature and we will first want to see how this takes off on the S5.
Considering the high price of the metal filaments (about €100/kg ex. VAT) and the extra required sintering service (€75), this is not something for the hobby market. The UM3 was last produced in early 2020. Power printer users will rather buy a new printer, than upgrading an old one. Providing an upgrade kit for a 3 year old printer will cost a lot of money to design, and only tinkerers will buy it. The target market for the upgrade kit would be too small to warrant the investment.
Tweaking the UM3 is possible of course, and fun to do, but will not be officially supported by Ultimaker. An unofficial guide for installing the S5 feeder on the UM3 can be found on this forum. Enabling the DD-cores is also do-able by modifying the material file.
On 7/22/2022 at 8:38 PM, 3dprntz said:... and with the 3dsolex nozzle?
At Ultimaker we don't know about the cores from other brands, you'd have to ask there.
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What is involved with the debinding and sintering?
Is there additional equipment required?
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