What an interesting and detailed write up
So.. what plans lie ahead of you?
Are you going to continue with the flex3drive, or look for a totally different approach?
What if you could reduce the hot zone above the heater blocks, would that reduce stringing?
We've got ninjaflex and PLA printing well out of 2 nozzles, as per my post in the Flex3 thread, linked below. This is usable, though not totally reliable (though often bizarre non-recurring errors, such as z-shifts mid way through a 20 hour print...). We've also got a Diamond Nozzle (discussed below). For now, the yield rates are unsatisfactory, so multi material is going on the back-burner. We'll look into The Palette, or a 3mm Diamond Nozzle, when released. Interchangeable heads plus diamond nozzle would be fantastic (6 filaments!) - but we need to get the individual components working well enough first. This demultiplexing idea is also on hold, until we muster up the courage to try it again!
I don't see the Flex3drive as mutually exclusive to any solution. I've designed parts to allow it to be mounted on each of the diamond nozzle heatsinks - and it could work on interchangeable heads too. Simply, where there is flexible filament, we're going to need a flex3.
Reducing the hot zone could work.
Interesting write up, I feel printing 2 materials with really different printing specs in the same hot end is not the way to go. Controlling the right temperature, avoiding blockages and prevent pollution of one material into the other will be very hard if not impossible.
We've also been experimenting with the Diamond Nozzle (on a Lulzbot), which has produced decent results printing with PLA and ninjaflex. The temperature difference doesn't seem to be too much of a problem. The main issues have been with the nozzle oozing during the print (both materials), and filament jamming in the bowdens (we're using 3mm filament in a partially drilled out 1.75mm diamond - so not ideal!).
Getting specifics hotends for specific materials will probably be much easier to control. I do think the flex-drive is very interesting for ninjaflex (did you share the design of the Ultimaker2 conversion to flexdrive already somewhere? if not can you please do so?)
See here. Will hopefully get the U2 flex3 STLs up soon.
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When I was reading your initial post, my mind recalled The Palette kickstarter project. I think we have a thread in here about it, we were curious how it would bond between filaments and maintain the uniform diameter (2.85+/-) to print well.
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Have you considered adding any other hardware to the mix? a trimming mechanism that would cut the previous filament at the point where the filament exits the squid thingy or even as far as the ceramic piece. Then throw out a retract command and then when the filament clears the little blue squid looking thingy you could push the new filament through, It wouldn't be very accurate (as far as when the material should change in relation to how far you have printed unless you set up a prime pillar to get rid of that extra stuff) because of the old filament left in the nozzle. and if you were switching from a high temp material to a low temp material it would possibly have an issue extruding the left over high temp material.
Have you considered adding any other hardware to the mix? a trimming mechanism that would cut the previous filament at the point where the filament exits the squid thingy or even as far as the ceramic piece.
That would be the ideal solution. It could either trim off the tails, or cut through the filament itself (there tends to be a deformed section about 12mm long, which has been melted and solidified before the tail, which is normally slightly wider than the filament). You'd probably be best off having a blade which cuts the tail as soon as it exits the hotend, to avoid having tail remnants in the bowdens. That way you don't need to find a way of removing the cut off tails, as there shouldn't be any. Perhaps a disk which can spin, with a hole drilled in it. The filament normally passes through the hole, but to cut the tail, the disk is spun one revolution. It wouldn't necessarily have to be sharp - the hot tail should be cutable by shearing it.
We thought having a cutting blade was a bit too much mechanical complexity - as well as taking up an extra motor slot.
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We thought having a cutting blade was a bit too much mechanical complexity - as well as taking up an extra motor slot.
hmm...you could add some sort of blade near the wipe area ( a serated strait blade) running the length of the front of the printer and make an extra action at the point of tool change to "wipe" back and forth essentially sawing through it. Also If you aren't using the other heater, you could use that connection for a heat based cutting method.
Also If you aren't using the other heater, you could use that connection for a heat based cutting method.
That's an interesting point. I wonder whether it's possible to use that connection to crudely control something (ie. no feedback), such as using a relay to switch on a cutting blade.
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Interesting write up, I feel printing 2 materials with really different printing specs in the same hot end is not the way to go. Controlling the right temperature, avoiding blockages and prevent pollution of one material into the other will be very hard if not impossible.
Getting specifics hotends for specific materials will probably be much easier to control. I do think the flex-drive is very interesting for ninjaflex (did you share the design of the Ultimaker2 conversion to flexdrive already somewhere? if not can you please do so?)
A dual settup like the magnetic heads is working ok, but it needs to become more stable, (my setup still needs frequent monitoring) which is much easier to do when you design a printer specifically for this goal.
It's not as lightweight as an ultimaker, but a "ready out of the box" example is the BCN3d sigma.
http://www.bcn3dtechnologies.com/en/catalog/bcn3d-sigma
A setup like this, with 2 heads mounted on a rail is easy to convert by changing 1 head into a flexdrive.
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