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Multiple retracts chewing through the filament?


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Posted · Multiple retracts chewing through the filament?

If the retract speed is to high it can lead to chewing through.

You could adjust the minimum travel before retract to help reduce them a bit.

Check the spring tension isn't to loose.

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    Posted · Multiple retracts chewing through the filament?

    Almost without exception it is caused by your drive wheel being too tight on the filament. If you can manually feed filament through, eg using Repetier Host, then feed 40/50 mm through and pull the filament. Does the side pulled by the teeth feel almost smooth? If so you really should be Ok. If it feels any rougher that is your problem.

    If you cannot manually feed then just print a square with retraction off and then pull the filament.

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    Posted · Multiple retracts chewing through the filament?

    Almost without exception it is caused by your drive wheel being too tight on the filament. If you can manually feed filament through, eg using Repetier Host, then feed 40/50 mm through and pull the filament. Does the side pulled by the teeth feel almost smooth? If so you really should be Ok. If it feels any rougher that is your problem.

    If you cannot manually feed then just print a square with retraction off and then pull the filament.

     

    when pulling the filament back out there is the grooves from the knurled piece that cause a little feedback but otherwise it is smooth.

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    Posted · Multiple retracts chewing through the filament?

    Hmn, I would offer to try printing your model but my 2nd extruder needs a new heating element to be fitted and that is not going to happen in the next week or so. I don't know how big the model is but it might be worth scaling it up so that more material flows before a retraction. I know that is not solving your problem but it might give some indication of what is going on. Can we assume this is not a problem you normally experience?

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    Posted · Multiple retracts chewing through the filament?

    I have a few printers - my oldest can do seemingly infinite (literally kilometers) of retractions with no problem. My newer printers can't. I solved the issue by increasing the parameter in Cura 15.04: "minimal extrusion before retractiong" from .02 to .45. I picked .45 because my retraction distance is 4.5mm so with .45 you can't have the same piece of filament go through the feeder more than 10 times (4.5/.45) whereas with .02 it can be 225 times! Having the same piece of filament go through 225 times is just too much.

    I was worried I would get tons of stringing but it wasn't a problem - only about 20% of the retractions were discarded (on layers that were particularly bad) and the quality seemed the same.

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    Posted · Multiple retracts chewing through the filament?

    Thanks for that George, a useful bit of info.

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    Posted · Multiple retracts chewing through the filament?

    And fyi, this is how to do it in new cura beta (15.09.82)

    MaximalRetractionCount.jpg.8474bd15f08b7054acfae393d55f7b22.jpg

    MaximalRetractionCount.jpg.8474bd15f08b7054acfae393d55f7b22.jpg

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