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Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

Hi Guys,

I have printed a few models now that were quite difficult to orient in a way that would be ideal. I have used meshmixer to generate supports for one model, I have used zbrush to make my own, and I have simply cut my model in half and printed it that way.

In general, I wanted to hear if there are strong feelings about meshmixer supports vs. Cura supports.

If you do use Meshmixer do you use the Ultimaker2 (Dizingof's) setting?

The base is separate, but I am tempted to try printing it as is with supports under the belly.

Curious how experienced printers here would orient this kind of model.5a3313e72d2ef_ScreenShot2015-11-17at12_10_43PM.thumb.png.460f4bd40d28ff5d482b7118a63722a3.png[/media][/media]

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    Posted (edited) · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    So, here are my possible orientations and support options.

    A. On its back with Meshmixer supports so that the legs print more or less vertical

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    B. The head and body split and Cura supports

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    or C. Head and body split with Meshmixer supports

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    I haven't toyed with Meshmixer in a long time. I found the interface less than user friendly.

    I did use Roberts tutorial a while ago and I did get some good supports. But just using the program was a hassle for me. I keep hoping Cura will give us those sorts of support types and options.

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    I have heard a couple people praising simplify3d. Does anyone have any strong feelings one way or another. Perhaps there is already a good comparison out there for Cura, simplify3d, Meshmixer and others.

    I was turned off my mesh mixer at first, but have started to become more comfortable with it and find it a good tool for certain things.

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Since you're willing to split and glue, I would split it like this (and the base separate of course). That way you wont need any support at all. Just pick a good angle on the cutting plane so that the neck and legs are as close to 45 degrees as possible.w2jxsvsi.thumb.jpg.e9882725f58642cd86197698baa62c4c.jpg

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    Posted (edited) · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Thanks Robert,

    Thats exactly how I split my large one.  But the seam was still more visible than I wanted.  I guess I just need to take more time cleaning up that area.  The reason I split it at the head was so that I could blend the seam into the ruff texture easier.

    I will post back my findings on which method worked best for me in case others are printing standing quadrapeds

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Oh additionally I want to go larger, so I am trying to see if I could get greater scale in a vertical print.

    Here is the one in the post above mounted and painted1ssigned.thumb.jpg.fd3aef2b8ae78ae177c2ddc29de128e8.jpg

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Wow qmaker this looks amazing!!!! I

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Wow qmaker this looks amazing!!!! Just a question: how is the model created?

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Thanks Ultibrain!! I modeled it in zbrush. I am currently printing an even larger version that I split in 4 pieces for the body and the antlers separate. It is by far the largest and longest print I have done since I have owned the machine. Approximately 30- 40 hours per quarter section LOL....

    Assembling it now. I will post an image of it when I get it put back together or the process along the way if anyone is interested.

    Here is a link to a video showing the build process for the smaller one. Hope you like it.

    http://www.quadepaul.com/video.html

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Yeah post pics of the big one. Sounds really cool.

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Great print, and an even better paint job!!

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Very Nice print. I've been a lurker and only been a member recently but this prints kinda inspire me to do better next time. Hope to see the larger print.

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Great print qmaker, does not look like you need any help!!!!!

    I was put off by Meshmixer initially - BUT persevering I am comfortable with it now and it is a step up from Cura for supports, much better. You can manually add your own supports and delete auto generated supports if need be.

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    ZBrush... doesn't surprise me :-)

    For simple support work I use Cura. Statues from animals, people, I use preferrably Meshmixer. But also Simplify3D sometimes comes to the rescue... What I like about Meshmixer is you can draw in supports manually and so have perfect control where the supports are put. Sometimes the program crashes but most of the times the program does it job nicely!

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Hi guys thanks for all of the feedback and comments. I finally have the 4 parts printed and am assembling them. I added a young buck imitating his father as a gift for my mom for Christmas. I was kind of sidetracked with a version of 2 elk fighting that delayed the larger print of the bugling elk. I will post a few photos shortly.

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Here are a few more assembly photoselkbuild2.thumb.jpg.2e382bd9e5f6f2933bb452aebf2f5da0.jpg[/media]

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

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    Sorry if this is too much. I just thought I would share how using filament as alignment rods has really been helpful in assembling large multipart prints

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    Just to modify my view on Meshmixer vs Cura on supports. With 15.04 I used Cura supports the other day - first time in well over a year. They were great and just pulled away from the part like the brim does - even easier. Sure I need to do some more but on that one experience my view has totally changed, Cura supports rock

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    Posted · Print orientation and MeshMixer vs Cura supports

    I agree the supports from Cura have improved, but I do like having the ability to customize my supports through meshmixer.

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