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Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

Hmm... to radically change the design UM2 not make sense. If I understand correctly the cause of the problem, the full multi-nozzle printing is only possible when changing the type of material used, which leads to changes in the feed mechanism and, accordingly, in the code, which will have little to do with the code UM2. In essence, it is a new model of printer ))

 

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    I dug up one of the Stratasys patents for support material (http://www.polychemistry.com/aquazol/

     

    Furthermore, PEO is not as hygroscopic compared to other commercial Water soluble polymers including polyvinyl alcohol and polyethylene oxide, and thus PEO possess significantly greater dimensional stability in ambient humid atmosphere compared to these other polymers. Moreover, PEO can be extruded at higher temperatures Without decom posing and having its melt viscosity change With time.

     

    They probably have innovated further since then as this patent application is 15 years old now, Stratasys SR-30 that the Uprint are using is described in the MSDS as "Terpolymer of Methacrylic Acid, Styrene and Butylacrylate"

     

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    All nice, but still no second nozzle on the Ultimaker. Does anyone know when the experiment with the Utimaker Original will lead to a definite product for the UM2?

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs
    All nice, but still no second nozzle on the Ultimaker. Does anyone know when the experiment with the Utimaker Original will lead to a definite product for the UM2?

    Most probably never. The way the dual extrusion was designed for the UMO should have been used for the UM2 more or less the same way. It didn't work as we all know. A proper dual or multiextrusion will have to be implemented in a different way. Please also check the forum for posts on foehnsturms development on dual head extrusion and Ultiarjans transformation of it to the UM2.

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    So i'll be switching colours a lot. Thanks for the reply.

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Done some research. How is it that cheaper brands like the http://www.marnic3d.nl/Printer and http://www.vertex3dprinter.eu/ can offer a second nozzle? The way they do it is not so much different from the way it would be mounted into the UMO or UM2.

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Is this still a WIP?

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Anybody done dual filament (or multi filament) extruder on an Ultimaker 2?

    This guy has a 3 filament extruder working on his reprap.

    http://richrap.blogspot.com/2012/08/3-way-quick-fit-extruder-and-colour.html

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Yes, here:

    https://ultimaker.com/en/modifications-and-hacks/view/10657-a-different-multi-extrusion-approach-um-tool-printhead-changer?page=27

    Watch the first video. Seems to work well.

    A few people on that list are doing it. Some with UMO, some with UM2.

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    Posted (edited) · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Double color printing would the stones in my game a lot faster and better.

    Is there any info about this next monday evening? If so, i want to test drive with my UM2.

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    Posted (edited) · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Jeex - you should message Arjan directly and ask him to bring his printer. Or go visit him. He is in Netherlands also.

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    I'll be at the Ulti Evening in Utrecht (NL) monday the 15th (99% sure) to demonstrate my UM2 dual head setup. The main topic is the new CURA, but there will be plenty of time to ask questions on this later on in the evening.

    And yes it does work very well, I'll try to post a few new pictures this weekend.

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Good, see you on monday then.

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    It looks like Creatr Xlabs are still working on this. I had a look on their website and it seems that they hope to release it in October 2015.

    Would be interesting to see what they come up with and what it can handle.

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Oh dear. Did I forget to press post??

    WHILE PRINTING

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    AFTER PRINTING

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    C6.thumb.jpg.aa3e49fc817b87958e920e4b8bae35c3.jpg

    AFTER DISSOLVING THE SUPPORTS

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Do you have more details on materials and settings and how you manage the two print heads?

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Hello Didier,

    Yes sure! Part material is ColorFabb XT.

    Not much to manage the two print heads since it is actually only one "print head" and two separate nozzles.

    Uses many stock parts to minimize cost and make it easy to assemble.

    Here's a dual color print

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    and another..

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    CameraZOOM-20151216151129134.thumb.jpg.89d0226e3e71dc7afcd7b1a0ed5c959d.jpg

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    CameraZOOM-20151216151129134.thumb.jpg.89d0226e3e71dc7afcd7b1a0ed5c959d.jpg

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    It's the same assembly you posted a while ago?

    Do you have a video maybe?

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    It's the same assembly you posted a while ago?

    Do you have a video maybe?

     

    No it isn't. Completely different. Videos not yet (sorry) as we still prefer to keep the design to ourselves. For the moment obviously.

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    :O wow! Sweeeet! Curious to see it work!

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    Well I hope you are not teasing us again and it's actually going to turn into a product This time.

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    :O wow! Sweeeet! Curious to see it work!

     

    Thanks!! :)

     

    Well I hope you are not teasing us again and it's actually going to turn into a product This time.

     

    Guess time will tell?! Aww.. come on! We want a great product as much as you do! (if not more)
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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    hi i can not find the page were i can buy the head for um2

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    Posted · Ultimaker 2 Dual extruder upgrade - Creatr XLabs

    hi i can not find the page were i can buy the head for um2

    there is nothing to buy... the guy who started this thread is teasing since 2014... but there is no product.... no video ... basically no proof of anything...

    There are experimental dual UM2's, this one is the most promising IMHO;

    https://ultimaker.com/en/community/17656-ultimaker-2-dual-extruder-einstellen?page=6&sort=#reply-135604

    and this is fun too;

    https://ultimaker.com/en/community/10657-a-different-multi-extrusion-approach-um-tool-printhead-changer

    (page 11 for the same thing on UM2)

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