Introducing Ultimaker Cura 3.3 | Beta

[kmanstudios 1,099]

Things I very much like:

1. Input fields are unified and behave as input fields in other programs and that means no longer having to remember what program I am in. I can usually have at least 3 programs open at any given time depending on what I am modding or making.
2. Input fields tab into the next field selecting the input values and ready to be overwritten.
3. Input fields require an 'enter' to accept the input as a value. This is nice as it keeps fat fingering issues down when making changes.....says the guy who fat fingers everything....you should see how much I have to go back and edit my posts after typing.....this helps with that.
4. Like the idea of the Support blocker, but wonder if it should be a mesh object as well as a generic box....but it is a good step in the right direction. I can see much use for this.

[Dim3nsioneer 536]

On my first try I had the issue that an infill density I put in automatically switched back to the default value in detailed settings.

[ahoeben 1,187]

2 hours ago, kmanstudios said:

Input fields require an 'enter' to accept the input as a value. This is nice as it keeps fat fingering issues down when making changes.....

 

I am not sure if that was an intended change.

 

2 hours ago, kmanstudios said:

Like the idea of the Support blocker, but wonder if it should be a mesh object as well as a generic box....

 

Could you elaborate on that? I am not sure I understand.

[darkdvd 877]

3 minutes ago, ahoeben said:

I am not sure if that was an intended change.

 

I have the same problem with CURA 3.2.1 and CURA 3.3 : I have to type number after number gently otherwise the default value will reappear.

I think the value entered is immediately used to calculate the values that it depends on, which causes a delay.

[leliep 25]

It does not run on my MacBook Retina with MacOS High Sierra 10.13.3

 

When I try to start it, I can see the splash screen until "...loadind scenes", then it opens some confirmation page and immediately exits without trace.

 

Can I help with some logfiles? Where to find?

 

Cheers from GY, -pl

[kmanstudios 1,099]

1 hour ago, ahoeben said:

 

I am not sure if that was an intended change.

 

 

Could you elaborate on that? I am not sure I understand.

Give me time today as it is 5AM here and I just got up to change filament and start a new print. Then it is off to a full day of stuff, but I have an example I can whip up to demonstrate.

 

As for the intended change or not, I do like the way the input fields are working.....soothing to me wee little soul and keeps a behaviour across multiple programs in line. Hard enough to navigate the multitude of mouse choices. LOL

[neotko 1,417]

1 hour ago, ahoeben said:

 

I am not sure if that was an intended change.

 

 

Could you elaborate on that? I am not sure I understand.

 

I think works great but also I would love to have 3 shapes to choose. Like a brush. Different shapes to paint the unsupported areas?  Or maybe just a slider to change the box size? Like a brush slider to make bigger/smaller unsupported areas

[AirBronto 6]

This update is amazing!  The bridging settings are really useful and the support blocker is invaluable.  Great work Cura team!

 

Has anyone been able to get the Octoprint plugin working?  I can install it from the manager, but the 'Print with Octoprint' button doesn't do anything.  I believe this problem happened when Cura 3.2 was released as well, and manually copying the Octoprint files from github worked.  Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to work with 3.3.  I also tried to copy over the working plugin files from 3.2 to 3.3, but when I do this I get a Python error and Cura 3.3 won't start.  I can delete the plugin and Cura will start again, but then the plugin doesn't work.

[Msuurmond 28]

The update from the plugin browser should work, maybe @ahoeben can help?

[ahoeben 1,187]

2 hours ago, AirBronto said:

Has anyone been able to get the Octoprint plugin working?  I can install it from the manager, but the 'Print with Octoprint' button doesn't do anything. 

 

I need logs to see what is going wrong. Go to help->show configuration folder, and locate cura.log. Please post that file somewhere and share a link.

 

Network printing (to UM3) has been totally rewritten in Cura 3.3, and as a result the OctoPrint plugin also needed a fairly major rewrite. The 3.2 version of the plugin will not work with Cura 3.3, and vice versa. The new version has not had as much testing as I would have liked, but I was busy with the setting visibility presets and the support blocker... Testing is much appreciated.

[kmanstudios 1,099]

12 hours ago, ahoeben said:

 

I am not sure if that was an intended change.

 

 

Could you elaborate on that? I am not sure I understand.

I do believe I figured a better work around than trying to code something like this. As it is, it does exactly what it was designed to do. If I am right on the work around, it will get published once the Noobian Knave gets around to putting some things together for another Clumsy Noobverse post.

Edited March 28, 2018 by kmanstudios
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[AirBronto 6]

4 hours ago, ahoeben said:

 

I need logs to see what is going wrong. Go to help->show configuration folder, and locate cura.log. Please post that file somewhere and share a link.

 

Network printing (to UM3) has been totally rewritten in Cura 3.3, and as a result the OctoPrint plugin also needed a fairly major rewrite. The 3.2 version of the plugin will not work with Cura 3.3, and vice versa. The new version has not had as much testing as I would have liked, but I was busy with the setting visibility presets and the support blocker... Testing is much appreciated.

 

These are the lines that get generated when I print to OctoPrint that seem to include the error.  I can try to post the entire log file but it's pretty big:

 

2018-03-28 17:22:41,306 - DEBUG - [MainThread] UFPWriter.UFPWriter._createSnapshot [25]: Creating thumbnail image...
2018-03-28 17:22:41,306 - INFO - [Thread-8] SliceInfoPlugin.SliceInfoJob.run [29]: Sending anonymous slice info to [https://stats.ultimaker.com/api/cura]...
2018-03-28 17:22:41,309 - DEBUG - [MainThread] UM.View.GL.ShaderProgram.load [55]: Loading shader file [C:\Program Files\Ultimaker Cura 3.3\resources\shaders\overhang.shader]...
2018-03-28 17:22:41,890 - DEBUG - [Thread-5] USBPrinting.AutoDetectBaudJob.run [37]: Checking COM5 if baud rate 38400 works
2018-03-28 17:22:42,705 - ERROR - [MainThread] UM.Logger.logException [81]: Exception: Unable to write to file CFDMP_Turntable_Top_v2: 'BuildPlateModel' object has no attribute 'activeBuildPlate'
2018-03-28 17:22:42,706 - ERROR - [MainThread] UM.Logger.logException [85]: Traceback (most recent call last):
2018-03-28 17:22:42,707 - ERROR - [MainThread] UM.Logger.logException [85]:   File "X:\3.3\build\inst\lib\python3.5\site-packages\UM\Qt\Bindings\OutputDeviceManagerProxy.py", line 122, in _writeToDevice
2018-03-28 17:22:42,708 - ERROR - [MainThread] UM.Logger.logException [85]:   File "C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\cura\3.3\plugins\OctoPrintPlugin\OctoPrintPlugin\OctoPrintOutputDevice.py", line 302, in requestWrite
2018-03-28 17:22:42,709 - ERROR - [MainThread] UM.Logger.logException [85]:     active_build_plate = Application.getInstance().getBuildPlateModel().activeBuildPlate
2018-03-28 17:22:42,710 - ERROR - [MainThread] UM.Logger.logException [85]: AttributeError: 'BuildPlateModel' object has no attribute 'activeBuildPlate'
2018-03-28 17:22:42,993 - INFO - [Thread-8] SliceInfoPlugin.SliceInfoJob.run [33]: Sent anonymous slice info.

It looks like the Application.getInstance().getbuildPlateModel().activateBuildPlace function is looking for an attribute that doesn't exist.  This is with a brand new version of Cura 3.3 with a brand new version of the Octoprint plugin installed through the plugin manager.

 

Let me know if you need more information.

[papavomsee 0]

Hello,

 

Creality CR-10 here.

Have 3.2.1 installed without problems.

 

Beta 3.3 crashed instant with my configuration.
With blank config it will start, selecting CR-10 and Add Printer it will crash :(

Next start the wizard is back, nothing configured.

 

If I choose for example Ultimaker 2 it works.

If i try to add the cr-10 later, it will instant crash again.

Seems it don't like my cr-10 anymore :(

Link to cura.log
https://www.dropbox.com/s/caqdrq9e1eoqszr/cura.log?dl=0

 

 

[Msuurmond 28]

9 hours ago, papavomsee said:

Hello,

 

Creality CR-10 here.

Have 3.2.1 installed without problems.

 

Beta 3.3 crashed instant with my configuration.
With blank config it will start, selecting CR-10 and Add Printer it will crash :(

Next start the wizard is back, nothing configured.

 

If I choose for example Ultimaker 2 it works.

If i try to add the cr-10 later, it will instant crash again.

Seems it don't like my cr-10 anymore :(

Link to cura.log
https://www.dropbox.com/s/caqdrq9e1eoqszr/cura.log?dl=0

 

 

Are you using custom profiles/materials? With a clean install of 3.3 I can add a CR-10 without any problems.

[ahoeben 1,187]

10 hours ago, AirBronto said:

 

These are the lines that get generated when I print to OctoPrint that seem to include the error.  I can try to post the entire log file but it's pretty big:

 

 

Thanks for looking in to it. Could you try http://files.fieldofview.com/temp/OctoPrintPlugin.curaplugin ?

 

You can safely remove the log file every now and then, otherwise it will just keep growing and growing.

[papavomsee 0]

1 hour ago, Msuurmond said:

Are you using custom profiles/materials? With a clean install of 3.3 I can add a CR-10 without any problems.

 

Hm that is strange.
Sure I have custom profiles with my settings.

But after the crash he ziped my settings and gave me a fresh start.

This is why the printer wizard comes up.

 

What else can I do?

[ghostkeeper 97]

10 hours ago, papavomsee said:

Hello,

 

Creality CR-10 here.

Have 3.2.1 installed without problems.

 

Beta 3.3 crashed instant with my configuration.
With blank config it will start, selecting CR-10 and Add Printer it will crash :(

Next start the wizard is back, nothing configured.

 

If I choose for example Ultimaker 2 it works.

If i try to add the cr-10 later, it will instant crash again.

Seems it don't like my cr-10 anymore :(

Link to cura.log
https://www.dropbox.com/s/caqdrq9e1eoqszr/cura.log?dl=0

 

 

We now have a "fix" that'll likely be included with 3.3 stable that causes Cura to no longer crash on this but instead deactivate the printer and display a message.

As for the actual bug though, it looks like someone renamed the "low" quality profile to "fast". I'll implement a version upgrade routine to fix that for other people, but for you your configuration will stay broken because your files have already been upgraded to 3.3.

 

Thanks for testing and helping us debug your bug

 

On 28/03/2018 at 9:44 AM, ahoeben said:

I am not sure if that was an intended change.

I don't think it was, actually. You like it better?

[FixerGH 0]

Install error

[ahoeben 1,187]

1 hour ago, ghostkeeper said:

I don't think it was, actually. You like it better?

 

I don't. @kmanstudios does, apparently.

 

[kmanstudios 1,099]

16 minutes ago, ahoeben said:

 

I don't. @kmanstudios does, apparently.

 

I do not believe I am a metric for anything being better

 

I like fishsticks and custard

Edited March 29, 2018 by kmanstudios

[AirBronto 6]

4 hours ago, ahoeben said:

 

Thanks for looking in to it. Could you try http://files.fieldofview.com/temp/OctoPrintPlugin.curaplugin ?

 

You can safely remove the log file every now and then, otherwise it will just keep growing and growing.

 

Absolutely!  Thanks for the quick response.  I'll test it when I get home from work and I'll let you know the outcome.

[Brulti 174]

CIRCULAR PRIME TOWERS! ... Hum, sorry...

 

Although, I think if we want to have really stable prime towers and eliminate almost completely the chance that they get toppled over for some reason, especially on tall prints, we'd need to have the prime towers be wider at the base than at the top, like a pyramid or something alike. I've no idea how hard or easy it would be to encode that though. And to have the Prime Tower menu allow us to define 'Tower Base Thickness' and 'Tower Top Thickness', with a check in CURA making sure that the base is wider than the top, and that the top isn't just a single pixel in width.

[ghostkeeper 97]

17 minutes ago, Brulti said:

CIRCULAR PRIME TOWERS! ... Hum, sorry...

 

Although, I think if we want to have really stable prime towers and eliminate almost completely the chance that they get toppled over for some reason, especially on tall prints, we'd need to have the prime towers be wider at the base than at the top, like a pyramid or something alike. I've no idea how hard or easy it would be to encode that though. And to have the Prime Tower menu allow us to define 'Tower Base Thickness' and 'Tower Top Thickness', with a check in CURA making sure that the base is wider than the top, and that the top isn't just a single pixel in width.

That by itself is easy to implement. It's probably harder to then predict beforehand how wide the prime tower is going to be to determine where the user is allowed to place objects before slicing.

[Brulti 174]

Just now, ghostkeeper said:

That by itself is easy to implement. It's probably harder to then predict beforehand how wide the prime tower is going to be to determine where the user is allowed to place objects before slicing.

 

Since the base will always be wider than the top, why not use the 'Tower Base Thickness' to create the 'print shadow' thingie and determine the volume of space that the prime tower will occupy, thus the volume of space unavailable for other objects to be printed? It's not like we're going to be printing over the prime tower anyway, so the 'shadow' can keep a constant width, when it comes to determining free space to print, even if the real prime tower doesn't.

 

If I'm not mistaken, the 'shadow' of the prime tower is determined by the 'Prime Tower Size' parameter. The bigger it is, the more space the tower occupies, the less space I have to print. So, if my idea is implemented, you'd just replace 'Prime Tower Size' by 'Tower Base Thickness' to calculate the shadow. So, basically, keep it the way it is now, just change the number used as a reference?

[papavomsee 0]

I deinstalled 3.3, deleted all folders in programfiles and user profile.
Reinstalled 3.3 and now I am able to add the CR-10