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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

Hi everyone,

 

We went live with a beta of Ultimaker Cura 4.4 today. This release includes Intent profiles, that accelerate the slicing process by slicing for the intent of your print.

 

Here's what we have:

 

Draft. Optimized for fast results. Print your digital model in the shortest time possible.

Visual. Optimized for part aesthetics. Print your digital model with superior visual and surface quality.

Engineering. Optimized for improved accuracy. Print your digital model with enhanced dimensional accuracy and closer tolerances.

 

Learn more about Intent profiles in the blog.

 

Discover these, plus several other changes and bug fixes in this beta. Tell us what you think in this thread so we can improve the stable release.

 

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

It's a pity that the UM3 was not considered, because it has to struggle with the same problems as the S5. I would really like to be able to print accurately with the UM3. 

 

Otherwise it sounds like an improvement if it works as promised. I am curious 🙂

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

Looking forward to benchmark tests with S3/S5. For experienced users the overview which parameters are different between these new profiles should be helpful. (Better then let us search one by one. 😉) Thank you. 

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

So why no intent profiles for CPE? seems strange you have an engineering profile for what is surely the least used engineering filament.

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)
9 minutes ago, Ishy said:

you have an engineering profile for what is surely the least used engineering filament

 

Which one do you mean? PLA? That is not that rarely used by engineers...

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)
1 hour ago, Dim3nsioneer said:

 

Which one do you mean? PLA? That is not that rarely used by engineers...

Yes at least that's what I would say but I can only go from my own engineering business.

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Posted (edited) · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

Something that is not mentioned in the opening post is that all plugins from the Marketplace need to be updated by developers and approved by Ultimaker staff again. It may take a bit of time before your favorite plugins are all available.

 

I am still working on compatible versions of the Sidebar GUI and the Material Settings plugins. My other plugins have already been approved and are available in the Marketplace.

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)
1 minute ago, ahoeben said:

Something that is not mentioned in the opening post is that all plugins from the Marketplace need to be updated by developers and approved by Ultimaker staff again. It may take a bit of time before your favorite plugins are all available.

This is indeed correct. We did an SDK update mailout last week to contributors.

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

Are there going to be intent profiles available for CPE and Nylon etc?

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

Same concern regarding the omission of the UM3 from the intent profiles.  The engineering tolerances would solve a major issue here - one of the reasons I am looking at options like the markforged as an addition is to try and deal with the existing tolerance variation.

 

Can someone from the team explain why this is limited to the s3 and s5?

 

My hope would be, if you still buy a new version of the printer (and with the UM3 this is the case),  it should be supported....

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

John

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)
20 minutes ago, JohnInOttawa said:

Can someone from the team explain why this is limited to the s3 and s5?

 

I am not "from the team", but I think it is the shear number of profiles that need to be made and tested to support more printer, printcore, material, quality and intent profiles.

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

Thanks for your reply!  That does make sense and also offers an explanation as to why we have been seeing so many wrinkles in software over the past couple of years.  A lot of members in the family and the permutations grow geometrically.

 

In your opinion, would it be realistic to expect these features to be limited to a couple of models in the initial beta test, then expanded outward to include the rest of the production series?

 

John

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

I am fairly certain there won't be profiles in the production version that are not in the beta version. It could happen that intent profiles for the UM3 will be added in a future version of Cura (4.5 or later), but I would not hold my breath.

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

That's good to know, of course disappointing to miss out on something with such significant potential.   

 

While I've been a programmer most of my professional life, I have steered clear of messing with anything below end user interfaces on the ultimaker line.   Maybe once this intent feature is proven, there could be discussion of implementing some of what it delivers via other means on older printers.  Is that possible?

 

-John

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

Sure, that could happen. The intent profiles are not magic. They are just a way to select a different combination of setting values that eg sacrifice printing speed for either accuracy. There are physical limitations that make it hard to eg print accurately AND fast. The profiles that ship for the UM3 are intended to be a compromise between the two. Between the UM2 and the UM3, the printhead became heavier (to allow for the printcores and dual extrusion). This made the physical limitations manifest more clearly. For the UM S5 and S3, the gantry became even heavier, which made "intent profiles" more necessary.

 

You can already make your own profile that prints slower to be more accurate. Unfortunately I don't have an UM3, so I would not know what changes to make.

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)

Interested to know what has changed in these profiles over the normally supplied profiles. For example what makes the 'visual' 0.15 layer height better than the previously default 0.15 layer height default profile. 

 

I have created all my own profiles for accuracy and visual quality (I don't care about speed), so I am interested to see if these new profiles can improve on mine and more what they have tweaked to get improved quality for example. 

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)
18 hours ago, Link said:

Interested to know what has changed in these profiles over the normally supplied profiles. For example what makes the 'visual' 0.15 layer height better than the previously default 0.15 layer height default profile. 

 

I have created all my own profiles for accuracy and visual quality (I don't care about speed), so I am interested to see if these new profiles can improve on mine and more what they have tweaked to get improved quality for example. 

I can say something about that!  The visual intents change the following settings:

speed_infill = 50
wall_thickness = =wall_line_width * 3
top_bottom_thickness = =wall_thickness


It's not a whole lot, but they were added last. I expect the visual intents to get more changes in the next releases.  The engineering profiles do a whole lot more:

infill_line_width = =line_width
jerk_print = 30
jerk_infill = =jerk_print
jerk_topbottom = =jerk_print
jerk_wall = =jerk_print
jerk_wall_0 = =jerk_wall
jerk_wall_x = =jerk_wall
jerk_layer_0 = 5
line_width = =machine_nozzle_size
speed_print = 30
speed_infill = =speed_print
speed_layer_0 = 20
speed_topbottom = =speed_print
speed_wall = =speed_print
speed_wall_0 = =speed_wall
speed_wall_x = =speed_wall
top_bottom_thickness = =wall_thickness
wall_line_width_x = =line_width
wall_thickness = =line_width * 3
xy_offset = =- layer_height * 0.2

Note that these intent changes sit on top of the existing profiles (so they override settings if both of them define it)

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Posted · Ultimaker Cura 4.4 (including Intent profiles)
23 hours ago, JohnInOttawa said:

Same concern regarding the omission of the UM3 from the intent profiles.  The engineering tolerances would solve a major issue here - one of the reasons I am looking at options like the markforged as an addition is to try and deal with the existing tolerance variation.

 

Can someone from the team explain why this is limited to the s3 and s5?

 

My hope would be, if you still buy a new version of the printer (and with the UM3 this is the case),  it should be supported....

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

John

Note that you could probably already try the changes that I just posted and set them by hand on your UM3. The intent profiles for the S3 and the S5 are exactly the same. The settings you would need for the um3 to get the maximum result are probably a bit different, but it should already get you much closer.

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